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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::12f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:245878 Archived-At: On Sat, 28 Mar 2020 15:47:11 +0100 =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n N=C4=9Bmec wrote: >> How about if instead of removing, we reword it so that it only talks >> about the macros in the file? > > IMHO that would still beg the question "what's so special about this > library that they're talking about this?", thus if not confusion, at > least still a distraction. I don't think the fact that you can `require' > libraries at compile time only (i.e. wrapped in `eval-when-compile'), as > long as you only use macros or inline functions from those libraries, > needs special mention? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (Just to be completely clear: I meant special mention in every file concerned. I believe it _is_ mentioned in the manuals.) --=20 =C5=A0t=C4=9Bp=C3=A1n