Re: master 726b758: Allow direct choice of smtp authentication method

Re: master 726b758: Allow direct choice of smtp authentication method

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 00:30:10 -0400 (EDT), cohen@andy.bu.edu (Andrew G Cohen) said:

    Andrew> branch: master
    Andrew> commit 726b758005ead50e9c98ef50a59304646652b994
    Andrew> Author: Andrew G Cohen <cohen@andy.bu.edu>
    Andrew> Commit: Andrew G Cohen <cohen@andy.bu.edu>

    Andrew>     Allow direct choice of smtp authentication method
    
    Andrew>     * lisp/mail/smtpmail.el (smtpmail-try-auth-methods): Let the
    Andrew>     authorization credentials have an entry with key :smtp-auth containing
    Andrew>     a preferred authentication mechanism.

I like it, but itʼs missing documentation and a NEWS entry.

Robert

Re: master 726b758: Allow direct choice of smtp authentication method

[Andrew Cohen]

>>>>> "RP" == Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 00:30:10 -0400 (EDT), cohen@andy.bu.edu
    RP> I like it, but itʼs missing documentation and a NEWS entry.

Err, uhm, yeah. I think its too small a change for NEWS. But it needs
documentation. I was going to do that, but ran into trouble: it properly
belongs in auth-source, and I just noticed that the auth-source
documentation is woefully out of date. For example, you can really only
effectively use :smtp-auth for a plstore, and auth-source doesn't even
mention plstore as one of its backends :(

Re: master 726b758: Allow direct choice of smtp authentication method

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2020 08:20:54 +0800, Andrew Cohen <cohen@bu.edu> said:

>>>>> "RP" == Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 00:30:10 -0400 (EDT), cohen@andy.bu.edu
    RP> I like it, but itʼs missing documentation and a NEWS entry.

    Andrew> Err, uhm, yeah. I think its too small a change for
    Andrew> NEWS. But it needs

Itʼs a new feature. However small, some people only look in NEWS for
new features.

    Andrew> documentation. I was going to do that, but ran into trouble: it properly
    Andrew> belongs in auth-source, and I just noticed that the auth-source
    Andrew> documentation is woefully out of date. For example, you can really only
    Andrew> effectively use :smtp-auth for a plstore, and auth-source doesn't even
    Andrew> mention plstore as one of its backends :(

How come? The .netrc/.authinfo backend returns all keywords when a
lookup succeeds, so adding ":smtp-auth super-sekrit-method" to an
entry works fine.

Robert

Re: master 726b758: Allow direct choice of smtp authentication method

[Andrew Cohen]

>>>>> "RP" == Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

    RP> How come? The .netrc/.authinfo backend returns all keywords when
    RP> a lookup succeeds, so adding ":smtp-auth super-sekrit-method" to
    RP> an entry works fine.

Huh, I thought I tried it and it failed, but as you say, it works just
fine. That makes documentation trivial---I'll add a sentence to
smtpmail.info.

Re: master 726b758: Allow direct choice of smtp authentication method

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2020 18:04:22 +0800, Andrew Cohen <cohen@bu.edu> said:

>>>>> "RP" == Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

    RP> How come? The .netrc/.authinfo backend returns all keywords when
    RP> a lookup succeeds, so adding ":smtp-auth super-sekrit-method" to
    RP> an entry works fine.

    Andrew> Huh, I thought I tried it and it failed, but as you say, it works just
    Andrew> fine. That makes documentation trivial---I'll add a sentence to
    Andrew> smtpmail.info.

Thanks for that. I added a cross-reference to it from auth-source
(never let it be said that the Emacs documentation doesnʼt have enough
cycles in it).

Robert