From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: haj@posteo.de (Harald =?utf-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Reading Atom feeds with Gnus Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 16:04:20 +0200 Message-ID: <875z737k0r.fsf@hajtower> References: <87sga84gbm.fsf@hajtower> <87r1pso44a.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12710"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 21 16:05:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kVEjf-00034c-0k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 16:05:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33568 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVEje-0005PY-2i for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 10:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42616) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVEj4-0005Ns-Gv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 10:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:56119) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVEj2-0000V0-A6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 10:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE02B2400FC for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 16:04:21 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1603289061; bh=29aFK7KL2J6vzL/WZEXuEMrue+Xzszu5qxkI6RPohxY=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=nuw5GMLqbTgQSXH9su/mO6m4UOWft/IEZ7xqU5bZCMUCLaCKEFNscJHH/7HjpLdQ2 yJZBEsYQIZkK1RlnLFhV/OgBjtCgbaSuBliLzzAke1MMRVJaofVNnbYHYU9Zevb8ub YfOgZZnxY+vv/KqV6J9zCr4Rs/QMTVSxLWtHAIAQgUD2LF0cIJGTGjd5s/Z90Vc8HB 0apCg3KlYR/TCt1GdUemqopcbJzo1VEf7hS1Wee0ksR51NAEQTFeyFzssMcnOR/dxm XiGhkGxOYxBNHeWHQPS16sxrDoAkUBui+IcD+4PmBGUejsfdHRC7aklYvGY6WrQL5b +NWo4IBWI4vQw== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4CGXKx1Rs5z6tmk for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2020 16:04:21 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87r1pso44a.fsf@ebih.ebihd> (Emanuel Berg via Users list for the's message of "Wed, 21 Oct 2020 01:43:33 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=haj@posteo.de; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/21 10:04:22 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124618 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor writes: > Harald J=C3=B6rg wrote: > >> Right now, I'm using news.gwene.org to convert the >> Atom feeds to NNTP which works quite fine. But this >> seems to be an unneccessary detour, so I'd prefer >> some "direct" approach. > > It isn't! > > Gwene is great! Thanks for the confirmation. Indeed, Gwene is a great and very convenient service. Extremely easy to use and free of charge. The issues of using a proxy are irrelevant in my current use case, but they exist in more paranoic situations: - Privacy: I need to share with a 3rd party which feeds I'm reading. - Authenticity and Confidentiality: I'm losing the ability to verify certificates of SSL-protected Atom feeds (many of them are). There's no end-to-end encryption, if the proxy is hijacked, it can suppress articles, or feed me fake news. - Identity: I shouldn't use that services to read feeds which need user authentication. None of these concerns bothers me for the Atom feeds I read right now, so I guess I'll just continue to use Gwene - with compliments to its provider :) -- Cheers, haj