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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: matthewzmd@posteo.net, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn
Subject: Re: etc/HELLO: On Chinese and Cantonese
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:37:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875z72ov3r.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mu0e890e.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:29:05 -0700")

On 22 Oct 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>My 2c: the simplified/traditional script distinction is probably the
>right way to go. As Stefan says, the point of the file is showing off
>scripts, but more than that, the script distinction is actually
>relatively apolitical. It's when you get into Mandarin vs Cantonese and
>trying to establish a taxonomical relationship between dialects/variants
>that politics comes into it. The simplified/traditional split is pretty
>uncontroversial.

+1 to making this be just about the simplified/traditional script distinction.  

The script distinction is pretty orthogonal to the language [1] distinction here.  And Cantonese and Mandarin are just two of *many* Chinese languages: if the HELLO file were to start down that road, it would encounter many things that it would do better to avoid :-).

Best regards,
-Karl

[1] Or "dialects" if you prefer.  אַ שפּראַך איז אַ דיאַלעקט מיט אַן אַרמײ און אַ פֿלאָט.  "A language is a dialect with an army and a navy."



  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-22 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-22  6:25 etc/HELLO: On Chinese and Cantonese Kai Ma
2020-10-22  6:45 ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-22 11:45   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-22 13:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-22 15:35       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-22 15:58         ` Werner LEMBERG
2020-10-22 15:44       ` Yuan Fu
2020-10-22 17:29       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-10-22 20:37         ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2020-10-23  3:41       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-23  6:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23  7:55           ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-23 10:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 11:16           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-10-23 11:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-23 16:27               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-10-22 23:03     ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-22 15:46   ` Yuan Fu

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