From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Motif support Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 09:42:37 +0800 Message-ID: <875yrk59wy.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <878rwhbb91.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <878rwhbb91.fsf@yahoo.com> <83ee699irm.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1a99icp.fsf@yahoo.com> <13ceca98-ccb5-8ed7-6d1f-4921e9b2554a@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30144"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Madhu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 20 02:44:02 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mz7ia-0007aQ-Jk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 02:44:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46200 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mz7iZ-0008Ou-2H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 20:43:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mz7hV-0007JB-IM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 20:42:53 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic304-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.191.148]:37095) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mz7hP-0002aj-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 20:42:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1639964566; bh=eGe32e55vxKUWQwR40Yyue1FA+c3KsOg2jdNoXglii4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=VJjp3EnfeyCTSkNKGxOK9kFH0NOKBo+M3R5M4kSxC13PraJGn6UR2JjBdzoSUUik1i0TU6O4yyP7IyuWVTtAox+RE07WSpnT0X68EVF1cbWecZkIIoqki3cNUuF1zlveIFfaeDSM713Gnvte5HoXxUf9zyF9bB+Xy4xm6KKxORzw5hhO9ZjDaCRG3qm4Y7RPwrefbHn5key1ZMiPU71lrOXQbAE2TJvU10S2Wt8gZDCtu5xaP8aIYIjt01Zo3/DULViPj9zk38J4SBJ1ktX/H6OUYeW2WVEHQnZI+jcZiWB4n5vW8vfSNRDHn81yiKn4iyXoQvkITqyGHwezwljxRA== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1639964566; bh=xfj/ey0PcJ1U7Lpb5JpvoS2Wxy5CAsEnZH8MZ0UiWTD=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=nYdCF85dX2SCbRTW7zb0IJGvBWyHGjT/z/YtoCA6hlOJo5Fg/U/ftMlGREK3l6sfyCOLuooIFJN0BTDab/epdyqdXpnHlZCCXgDT2xhwS8wQFZ65UrKM52uPT7zDJ97NXGfba8VDzn6xbmVlHG/iw5mSkCl2MfQhzZ4VifDH9TkLHgO1uoIRBKorGvIm0FLGdznNHQGY5ix/IRnQXSPv6zrmBU1gpCiqS3eSSzqNQLN0swCV1HspY6U6uJqAoWwyxqKBPItBB6nUOR7j4vaqDU3oJXB6yzKBOQQCCxsjJ6IaCKJXqrJEtXH5sym31Gwd+2rEOUrDB4Sgt9jTKnoypA== X-YMail-OSG: ekKHS6AVM1mAM9XPzEHgdJRUiJdOvYqaaUTvvzKKHa7ZGwldA0ovBKZPioN9Di_ KImf96UwwTyVuo.JEjE_ai0O13TkUWB0MG.K3v0hVuv6IF8zv_3Py_CYt8BA3Sjwz88WEyV4wiEl E9aNZYp66g5s_8CMqqQkcLioP2VijtAwoBpYuVoYiwylLkn9P.wKoY1QD3GTAuo6igd5upFBTojj zoiA2u7KXlR6lBbN.ymAQeelwO6YroSEahikIOKypiK3_cepF3KZGUByezCxBmuCV95BzMvy3gWp gXk3m4u0WZ8ydT42c4scMKiPOPReMfsn_C065y.24994XqquGCNHEZLANcW261ZKZiCYJqBajIuj Tu0ZwE49d8n7Byk1VtXf2JevlLu_oqgJ5Zc3d3HWufTW7Sf.RNbs0ML8oQbwtHR7whVclVBz8u6G ARkOx_PBLe.Ptk34jOzKidIC8xALf.KpZkHW7j.6kHhC7ZQNnscvdzIGxMbydDfkZIRA8RPvObTp Wj0C36EF1LqNgc0CRDypf.f2jAJQVmfWhRcjrTapgs9mOei3a4gIFqDeftVkJPm8UYsR_b0aTpTb 47HIs0cUvx0e1OifJMZ8pMqvEZ4NkRrD4l7B8GN9Dge2I_.oYEmLVbviqn4h__yVJoRo_C6MY3Hs EDDYXFVxqfTJt33U7QWaLnN85pqn2woFIwExxX4ESmZ1bTX7usj1ZLRH0bHOnkF3eXO7Q3ydNJX9 l2kN3nIw3lEkvGns2JEKeDhdzXgm4yI.5dyoyt3mu12mNH50P0dB7W1Bb9mYeg1yquogP2ZJqdLY qQTb3ImB1edFRD.4dqhYmZf_A8xY4beQ2LhAmVD0NX X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 01:42:46 +0000 Original-Received: by kubenode501.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 870b95120624f4c864bd4913dfa7684d; Mon, 20 Dec 2021 01:42:41 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Madhu's message of "Mon, 20 Dec 2021 05:45:13 +0530") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19498 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.191.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic304-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282483 Archived-At: Madhu writes: > Same here. And I hear there is an opensource revival of CDE, which > should be encouraged. > > It always helps to test "standard emacs" behaviour on another toolkit > rather than letting the behaviour slide Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > We could just remove support for '--with-x-toolkit=motif' from > > > configure.ac for a while, and see if anyone complains. If not, we rip > > > out the actual Motif code. > > > > Sounds like a plan. > > And now we've had (at least) a couple complaints, so perhaps we should > reconsider. It did take almost a full year, so the complaints > aren't... vigorous, though. For the reasons mentioned above, and also because Martin and I think someone else was also using the Motif build even though support was dropped, I think we should back out of this change. It's not too late, and I don't think the discussion ever ended conclusively either.