From: Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com>
To: LdBeth <andpuke@foxmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: using finalizers
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:01:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yr5m1a0.fsf@logand.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tencent_2D2DBEDBD2B1AB4702C35567C6CAEBAFD105@qq.com>
On Fri 31 Dec 2021 at 19:41, LdBeth <andpuke@foxmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In <87bl0xm39e.fsf@logand.com>
>>>>>> Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com> wrote:
>
> ldb> You would only need finalizers for complex objects, so ideally you
> ldb> could use OOP to manage that, probably EIEIO but not limited to that,
> ldb> and you may even come up with your own.
>
> Tomas> What do you mean?
>
> Tomas> Why not do it "properly" and future-proof the make-finalizer interface,
> Tomas> pass the object explicitly there and leave the rest as implementation
> Tomas> detail instead of leaking the issue to the programmer?
>
> Isn't it doesn't make sense to associate a primitive data types such
> as numbers, symbols, strings with a finalizer? If you need such a
> feature on primitive data types, you are probably using this in a way
> not intended.
>
> And meawhile it would be problematic to hardcode what kinds of objects
> are allowed to have objects. Notice this is a C function so it is not
> very flexible.
This is irrelevant, I am not talking about that.
> You can think this is the primitive API that Emacs provides, and
> people can build up more higher level ones that suit their particular
> needs.
This primitive API that Emacs provides relies on the implicit assumption
of the compiler being not smart. I do not see how that is a good idea.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-31 12:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-30 22:43 using finalizers Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31 2:46 ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 3:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-31 3:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-31 4:30 ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 4:43 ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 6:28 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31 10:59 ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 11:18 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31 11:41 ` LdBeth
2021-12-31 12:01 ` Tomas Hlavaty [this message]
2022-01-01 17:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 20:25 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 20:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 22:55 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 23:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 23:47 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 23:26 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31 7:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-31 9:31 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-12-31 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-01 17:58 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-01 20:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 23:05 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 23:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-31 14:23 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2021-12-31 16:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-01 17:37 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-01 22:36 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-02 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-02 7:53 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-02 8:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-02 13:10 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-02 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-02 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-02 17:18 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-02 18:11 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2022-01-03 0:37 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-01-04 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-31 14:39 ` LdBeth
2022-01-01 17:59 ` Tomas Hlavaty
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