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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285967 Archived-At: xenodasein@tutanota.de writes: > Thing is, this time you seem to think that you are "fixing" things, > and someone else thinks it breaks 30 year old behavior. Indeed, and I didn't outright dismiss his statement. If there is nothing wrong with his program, then I will implement a flag in x-set-selection that makes gui-selection-value revert to the old behaviour if it was not called by gui-select-text. But there has to be a very good reason to break an equally long-lasting assumption about the conditions under which x-selection-value is expected to behave. > See some pattern here? No. > I'd focus on that instead of the "see this see that" smarty-pants-ery. Watch your language, that tone is not welcome anywhere.