From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Would there be a drawback of using the same graphical toolkit on every platform? Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 23:29:36 +0100 Message-ID: <875ypaebhr.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <83tucvz53x.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23531"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:TYO7Y56aaqaA3KSLov/FTXmR6dk= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 19 23:30:42 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLYFV-0005uw-VV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 23:30:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52018 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLYFU-0007dU-UY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 17:30:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35502) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLYEk-0007dM-T4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 17:29:54 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:57172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLYEg-0003pk-3r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 17:29:54 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLYEa-0004uK-V8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2022 23:29:44 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136021 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: > That means on Unix-like systems. It is better expressed that > way. GNU is Not Unix, true, though it is very much > Unix-like, such systems are mentioned as Unices if > I remember well. But that is a formal distinction: A Unix-like (sometimes referred to as UN*X or *nix) operating system is one that behaves in a manner similar to a Unix system, although not necessarily conforming to or being certified to any version of the Single UNIX Specification. [1] But I don't care about that. And for good reason, because in terms of technology a random Linux distribution found on DistroWatch.com [2] is as much Unix as anything else. I played ice hockey for more than a decade. I didn't wear a helmet a single time. But the IIHF says all players should wear helmets. That means it wasn't ice hockey, what I took part in was an "ice hockey-like sport". See? The absence of a helmet _is_ what "breaks" it! > I feel fine with DragonFlyBSD and GNU/Linux-libre systems, > as user I do not see differences, majority of basic command > line tools are more or less same. I do prefer GNU tools for > reasons of --help and --version and some consistency. And because there are tons of more options than on a BSD system, e.g. OpenBSD. But I like both in principle; I'm a maximalist but they are not and they made a system in line with that and their style. Linux is also much bigger so there is a much bigger culture, support, services, webpages, and so on. Books and business, cons and pros. Like I said, I'm a maximalist so the Unix cocktail I do is Linux, Emacs, zsh and Lisp - not OpenBSD, nano, mrsh, and Yabasic. But that is still just two styles ... of Unix. (Now, for the record, I made that up as you realized. You can use Emacs, zsh and Lisp on OpenBSD as well as again, everyone understands, helmet or not.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix-like [2] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/CLUELESS-ONLINE -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal