From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: lamers on IRC Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 06:54:48 +0200 Message-ID: <875ylq8dev.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87wnedb6xe.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87o7zox6w4.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87pmk1b5ot.fsf@dataswamp.org> <9109efc3-0d1d-4d21-8160-24da6f7cd256@www.fastmail.com> <87bkvj9fr7.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ee0eselt.fsf@dataswamp.org> <5b08e28cbbd8e3c63febe68ead319316@basiscraft.com> <87k0a68eyl.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8640"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:GzSwKL06RBBPdBEjrPw5PiTha+A= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 28 06:55:55 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nuoUU-00021Z-8N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 May 2022 06:55:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41640 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuoUS-0000zc-K9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 May 2022 00:55:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuoTd-0000zK-PE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2022 00:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:45114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nuoTc-00063G-42 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2022 00:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nuoTW-0000zX-QY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 May 2022 06:54:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137441 Archived-At: Thomas Lord wrote: > Every user had a theoretical capacity to operate their own > host or to shop around for one who carried the alt groups > they preferred. Of course, the whole thing being P2P, hosts > upstream of a given host could choose to shun it and hosts > could shop around for their choice of upstream hosts. Uhm, "upstream host", is that another computer that receives to the same feed as you so thus gets your posts or what is it? > Google used its economic power and social influence to first > centralize what was left of mainstream netnews and then to > kill it off. Well, you can tune into nntp.aioe.org with Gnus this very instant and see how useful it is. But killed - no. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal