bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Waleed Yousef]

The problem started probably during the last month. Gnus no longer
includes the original message that is being forwarded or replied. In
addition, it no longer saves my reply to the same group as I am used to.
I did not change any thing in gnus.el.


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bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Waleed Yousef <wyousef@fcih.net> writes:

> The problem started probably during the last month. Gnus no longer
> includes the original message that is being forwarded or replied. In
> addition, it no longer saves my reply to the same group as I am used to.
> I did not change any thing in gnus.el.

`R' and `F' in Gnus include the messages like before when I try this, so
you're going to have to give a more thorough recipe to reproduce what
you're seeing if we're going to be able to debug this.

And by "during the last month", do you mean "after I started using Emacs
28.1"?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Waleed Yousef]

This is an example. I just typed 'R' to reply your email. As you see,
your original message is not included.

I did not mean a particular upgrade. I almost do a daily update for the
whole system. I am using Archlinux + spacemacs. I opened an issue for
Spacemacs, they said they did not do any upgrade for gnus commands.

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Pankaj Jangid]

Waleed Yousef <wyousef@fcih.net> writes:

> This is an example. I just typed 'R' to reply your email. As you see,
> your original message is not included.

It is a key binding issue due to some package. When you are reading a
message (like this one), use the following key sequence to get the key
binding.

C-h k F

i.e. Control 'h' then 'k' then 'F'.

It should be "gnus-summary-followup-with-original" when you are reading
news.

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Waleed Yousef]

In addition to my last reply (which I even cannot find it in the sent
messages, which is another anomaly that started occurring
simultaneously with the problem that I reported) an additional
information that may help is this. The same problem happens when, e.g.,
I start editing a message, then save it, then go to "drafts" to open it
using `e`. This starts a new empty message, and does not open the saved message!

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Waleed Yousef <wyousef@fcih.net> writes:

> In addition to my last reply (which I even cannot find it in the sent
> messages, which is another anomaly that started occurring
> simultaneously with the problem that I reported) an additional
> information that may help is this. The same problem happens when, e.g.,
> I start editing a message, then save it, then go to "drafts" to open it
> using `e`. This starts a new empty message, and does not open the saved message!

It sounds like you're using a bunch of packages/customisations that's
redefining key bindings.  Try removing those.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Waleed Yousef]

I am using spacemacs. I did not define more packages than the default

> On May 26, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> 
> Waleed Yousef <wyousef@fcih.net> writes:
> 
>> In addition to my last reply (which I even cannot find it in the sent
>> messages, which is another anomaly that started occurring
>> simultaneously with the problem that I reported) an additional
>> information that may help is this. The same problem happens when, e.g.,
>> I start editing a message, then save it, then go to "drafts" to open it
>> using `e`. This starts a new empty message, and does not open the saved message!
> 
> It sounds like you're using a bunch of packages/customisations that's
> redefining key bindings.  Try removing those.
> 
> -- 
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Waleed Yousef <wyousef@fcih.net> writes:

> I am using spacemacs. I did not define more packages than the default

Spacemacs is a whole mass of odd packages.

What does `C-h k R' say if you execute that command in a Gnus summary
buffer?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Waleed Yousef]

It seems that I have a problem; the command (and any other C-h k
command) gives the message:

mapcar: Symbol’s value as variable is void: code-cells-mode


BTW, do you discourage me from using Spacemacs? So far it works very
well except with gnus.

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Cc: 55553@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Waleed Yousef <wyousef@fcih.net>
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 18:48:46 -0700
> 
> BTW, do you discourage me from using Spacemacs? So far it works very
> well except with gnus.

What Lars is saying, AFAIU, is that if the Gnus setup in Spacemacs is
faulty for some reason, you should talk to the Spacemacs maintainers
and ask them to resolve the problem, by avoiding to make
customizations which prevent Gnus from working properly.

The Emacs project is not involved in Spacemacs and cannot be
responsible for the customizations they make.  We can help and advise,
but eventually it's the job of the Spacemacs maintainers to fix their
customizations of Emacs and Gnus.

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Waleed Yousef]

I opened an issue on Spacemacs. Can I share with them your reply?

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Waleed Yousef <wyousef@fcih.net>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org,  55553@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 01:23:33 -0700
> 
> 
> I opened an issue on Spacemacs. Can I share with them your reply?

Yes, of course.

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Waleed Yousef]

Ok, the command C-h k R gives me this:


R runs the command gnus-summary-reply-with-original (found in
gnus-summary-mode-map), which is an autoloaded interactive compiled Lisp
function in ‘gnus-msg.el’.

It is bound to R, S R, <menu-bar> <post> <Reply and yank>.

(gnus-summary-reply-with-original N &optional WIDE)

Start composing a reply mail to the current message.
The original article will be yanked.

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Waleed Yousef <wyousef@fcih.net> writes:

> R runs the command gnus-summary-reply-with-original (found in
> gnus-summary-mode-map), which is an autoloaded interactive compiled Lisp
> function in ‘gnus-msg.el’.
>
> It is bound to R, S R, <menu-bar> <post> <Reply and yank>.
>
> (gnus-summary-reply-with-original N &optional WIDE)

Then rebinding isn't the problem here, it sounds like.  I don't have any
further suggestions on how to debug this, then, other than trying to use
a vanilla Emacs.

-- 
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   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

bug#55553: 28.1; Forward and Reply does not incude message

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Then rebinding isn't the problem here, it sounds like.  I don't have any
> further suggestions on how to debug this, then, other than trying to use
> a vanilla Emacs.

This was a month ago, and it doesn't seem likely that there'll be any
further progress here, so I'm closing this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no