From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: lamers on IRC Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2022 02:13:05 +0200 Message-ID: <875yllnsvi.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87wnedb6xe.fsf@dataswamp.org> <9109efc3-0d1d-4d21-8160-24da6f7cd256@www.fastmail.com> <87bkvj9fr7.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ee0eselt.fsf@dataswamp.org> <5b08e28cbbd8e3c63febe68ead319316@basiscraft.com> <87k0a68eyl.fsf@dataswamp.org> <875ylq8dev.fsf@dataswamp.org> <2a7698a89c8e34126dbc7e357feea8e0@basiscraft.com> <874k19pue3.fsf@dataswamp.org> <877d65oaxj.fsf@dataswamp.org> <38b62931b8e3ef2c4ee2dd71e111d857@basiscraft.com> <87h757q4ls.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87czfvq3wi.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87zgizoj02.fsf@dataswamp.org> <0340a07a064a4f2ac49c60ee7753850d@basiscraft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10067"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:L6/gmQSUao/sENLRdOHZaFui+lE= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 01 02:14:21 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nwC0D-0002Pb-I6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2022 02:14:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50004 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nwC0C-0000Mx-03 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 May 2022 20:14:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nwBzB-0000MB-AM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2022 20:13:17 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:37794) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nwBz9-0001sp-8H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2022 20:13:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nwBz6-0000yL-Jr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2022 02:13:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137476 Archived-At: > They call the architecture with many servers a federation > but > it's the same as the Usenet one, see these images > > https://dataswamp.org/~incal/pimgs/comp/net-arch.png > https://dataswamp.org/~incal/pimgs/comp/usenet.png > > So while in theory it is total P2P in practice it is > client-server only there are many servers that themselves > share information, or temporarily acts as clients if you > will. > > It's the old redundance and propagation scheme all > over. > > So then the Fediverse (a concept) is the whole set based on > this network idea, and the Mastodon "instances" (servers) > that offer a FOSS Facebook/Twitter-ish service is just one > service of many possible, albeit one that has been realized. I got a private mail from a clever little individual, it says Fediverse is really a federated network on which some services are built, like Mastodon (which has replacement implementations like pixelfed, pleroma or honk). There is peertube as a youtube equivalent, I know there is also an alternative to that proprietary network with pictures. It's possible to exchange information between the services with various results. From my experience, a peertube video release can be published on mastodon from peertube, comments done on the video will appear as a thread in mastodon. You can follow a peertube account using mastodon. I have no idea if the opposite is true, i.e. following a mastodon account using a peertube account, that doesn't make sense I think. No, I don't think it does! :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal