From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Akib Azmain Turja Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Emacs packages, GitHub and software freedom Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2022 19:32:58 +0600 Message-ID: <875yka4b91.fsf@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4829"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 15:34:41 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o95Au-00012y-Mv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 15:34:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45870 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o95At-0001Fd-9j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 09:34:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55570) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o959z-0000TZ-0r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 09:33:43 -0400 Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:51108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o959w-0007d4-U7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2022 09:33:42 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E0740E55 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2022 15:33:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sqnHhOR3Mc2E for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2022 15:33:37 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1657114417; bh=V7jmKcHNhp1c7qNGz4QcGRrUVAwVyXER+57GsQQQh+4=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=RY7pNEg1guA/JPwf0bfC+TfUIkW4FnorMp6WAi/8xtTVEjuNCCyirvO+Qpq7iWD8o dZE1Qfs1guGWttFybQ8OBED0/mgO0/LVD8pU4RS4ogHsMYQn7chYXihA1u7ASAabMs qL6NNbISEak4/UaswRNm4kIKthKxSfGdC7ki91k328FcR6OvA0CC6Baf2KZekAnxLJ Mnaop1GHZ301sSILsr5p/q+zTIwZeB8ddVkl2XYhFSKZNzTrjd0n4rLn8RTQ3GplMa wEh42oxBaqDC3vqFoH+wP5Xb55MQEZCGuN0710QOJx+Cs3JAIXNDd1PG9IPlNpUCbl 4FVfM60b7anIw== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139; envelope-from=akib@disroot.org; helo=knopi.disroot.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291900 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recently, FSF has sent the following in the Free Software Supporter list:[1] > ### Give up GitHub: The time has come! >=20 > *From June 30 by Software Freedom Conservancy* >=20 > [Following GitHub's announcement](https://u.fsf.org/3me) of Copilot as > a for-profit product, Software Freedom Conservancy calls on all free > software developers to leave and "Give up GitHub!" The campaign page > lists major reasons to give up on GitHub. Conservancy says, > "developers have been, for too long, the proverbial frog in slowly > boiling water. GitHub's behavior has gotten progressively worse, and > we've excused, ignored, or otherwise acquiesced to cognitive > dissonance." Read about the initiative, join the public mailing list, > and learn how you can support the campaign yourself. >=20 > * And GitHub is already listed as being a F grade software forge in "GNU Ethical Repository Criteria Evaluations" for atleast more than a year.[2] "GNU Ethical Repository Criteria" says that it's unacceptable.[3] But it is a matter of regret that many (about 133 out of 356 on my downloaded archive-contents) GNU Emacs packages on GNU ELPA (let alone NonGNU ELPA and MELPA) use GitHub. What steps should we take about them? (Kicking them out of ELPA is indeed not an option.) [1] https://www.fsf.org/free-software-supporter/2022/july [2] https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.html [3] https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html =2D-=20 Akib Azmain Turja This message is signed by me with my GnuPG key. 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