From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61281: =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9C`?=(a \, b)=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9D?= equals to =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9C`?=(a . , b)=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=9D?= Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2023 05:32:34 +0100 Message-ID: <875ycghgv1.fsf@web.de> References: <87a61tgdkx.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26782"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Xie Shynur , "61281@debbugs.gnu.org" <61281@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 05 05:33:23 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pOWiQ-0006hr-DX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 05 Feb 2023 05:32:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 5 Feb 2023 03:30:40 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:pQF0oTIBqXZUuVndWHEU8PXBhkbfxP9Ol1LcrPq9hzqtwoycgCi bWKHGqaZiN93SWfhyu07jupckaN9zO62tXbedhcgA78SyaIPSkQtc+CZV4vJqbMufjQe//B Q/hRDnCdPIyx7+O9lMIc9nUOwtIfynp8FZMCUtcN3YcI48K3c88caBANgF6osF6xAl820Es bFSLpl9h4Qbjb2ppSNyCg== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:3vFK2uAehvo=;NRykYWOuVjmWTK/+twxNGjOlZht IzhnxLHzVKemdZIWJNwnicZv7YJIMvG8dYPrkDETV4pp56fOTAEjwOlEZD7Y60JkxC+NLc+IK X9Er/Q6vkPc04DmHPDmZ68Fjkt4wm5aTbb22YD0ezP5JA99SrWG4DGNW3gXeFePw2jgJOn+E/ 576S0uGZrTTucdsLEFU0S6KLMvyNq/PLxjz2wgByUXDWXU3jffEaOe+1n+mMtQ7OdHcuJd1S1 ZW7zP5jAbKQe7OqXexbtWgflw2lB6a8Inj691lvCk5d+HY9MUY32RSG1DZdYhAdc7chasA8aM l1TZhoxDKi7xhWn+xbQnKYOjagiAdmEky/+X8XnNjC8JVifXEyAYIRE9gU5M4x8q6okMxkB6o sT6p0qJC3BOmrkW+PA/r92t4SIfeFlxBvMLOcGzo/EzYL8HTexT66A4ijnebSTZNSbYWFGLgQ Ms6GgFcsjjrlSBjfAoRxt8sfWi5Y50gHq6zU24mocluFqHTZE+ZXqpnR2ZnEXz6YRg3IMEbQp YxEYwGtkEram/98Vq7+uefU1yX8zLFNHM44WQVMTP+mg0S3ZcANb4omemQ9bvYPporjxioNoB jc+BndaFONfyXg15QPKPzIS6+tbLRl4olrxl4Z/cbeAliMvY/IWUMW4OqghvuSvyFSuMelja4 YPXoGB1745Hk6FmUudgh7Wz/6K1txtNvtpMKIz3fxVMLr53LIZXhsYpwgOKgbppGkYvaVlqIR gEgkDBiT9LHUfQ39Djt5+wNnptjBy1fb/VouyHdx83AmvxdZUiiiTuA/ZrndMXj3Stm4G4i5 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:254812 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Yes, but see above. I think \, should be read > as the symbol whose print name is ",". That's the case. > To me, `(a \, b) should be treated like (a foo b): a list of 3 > symbols - no evaluation. No evaluation by backquote, you mean? Yes, you need to say `(a ,'\, b). Is this really different in other Lisps (isn't `,' a reader macro in Common Lisp)? > And `(a \,b) should be treated as a list of two symbols, whose print > names are "a" and ",b". That's also the case. I don't decide about this, but when we changed the semantics of `,' like you suggest, we will probably break a lot of code for no real gain (I think the semantics in Elisp clear and easy to understand), so this sounds like a very bad idea to me. Michael.