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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306690 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > Are you talking about an advice name or the name > of a predicate-valued variable? Actually, about the names of function value'd variables that we want to use or suggest for advising. > I'll also pointed out that predicates are > _particularly_ useful use cases for advice, as > the ways you can combine the advice include the > usual logical combinations (AND, OR, NOT). Indeed. Maybe a lot or most of the cases of function value'd variables are predicate valued variables. BTW, there is a case that is not so sexy: the case of variables that can be bound to a function but also allow other values (like nil, t, a string). We also have these cases in our sources. One must not install advises for these. Michael.