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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 6d9f753d0464840a9f21c70546fc0090; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 12:22:27 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <874jkerxgb.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Fri, 01 Sep 2023 10:37:24 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21763 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.188.147; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic303-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309766 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko writes: > This is not about etiquette. This is about personal feelings. Whether > acceptable for you or not, it is something very real and affects human > behaviour. We can't take everyone's misgivings at face value. There is nothing wrong with requesting to be copied in to a thread; if someone hestiates to do so, we can explain that there is nothing to fear. If he is still hesitant thereafter, we won't be obliged to further accommodate him. > And what do you mean by "sign up for more trouble"? What I essentially > asked for - "It would be nice if anyone can subscribe to an individual > thread anonymously." I am not 100% sure why mailing list software does > not have such feature, but the fact that web forges do have it is one of > the objective reasons why they are viewed as more comfortable option. Introducing such a capability to the Emacs lists will compel us to bear two different types of threads in mind, and that constitutes trouble.