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[141.239.241.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 12-20020a17090a194c00b00267eead2f16sm151531pjh.36.2023.09.12.16.26.45 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 12 Sep 2023 16:26:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ledcpodr.fsf@k-7.ch> (=?utf-8?Q?=22S=C3=A9bastien?= Gendre"'s message of "Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:15:00 +0200") Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::631; envelope-from=bobnewell@bobnewell.net; helo=mail-pl1-x631.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.473, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310528 Archived-At: Indeed sad news, and I am very sorry to hear this. I wondered what happened to Gnuvola, and unfortunately now I know. TTN was not a "he" but a "she" as far as I know. Certainly this is attested to by her name. In Viet Nam the middle name "Thi" is given to women. For men it would have been "Van". Given that last names come first in that country, she would be called Nguyen Thi Thien. RIP, TTN. Your unique humor and many contributions will be missed. You couldn't have been very old and your passing is a loss to us all. > Amin Bandali writes: > >> We have learned with deep sadness that Thien-Thi Nguyen (ttn) died in >> October 2022. Thien-Thi was a hacker, artist, writer, and long-time >> maintainer and contributor to many GNU programs as well as other free >> software packages. He was the GNU maintainer of the rcs, guile-sdl, >> alive, and superopt packages, and he was working on GNU Go as well. >> >> Thien-Thi especially loved GNU Emacs, GNU Taler, and GNU Go: he was >> the author and maintainer of the xpm, gnugo, ascii-art-to-unicode, >> and hideshow GNU Emacs packages and made substantial contributions to >> many others such as vc, as well as to GNU Taler and its documentation. >> >> We greatly miss Thien-Thi in the free software community - his death >> is a great loss to the Free World. > > -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i - Via GNU/Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB