From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tpeplt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: The Menu is slow, how to find out why? 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One source of slow-down with Emacs is the toolbar and tool-tips. If you have these turned on, then turning them off might resolve your problem. (These are likely caused by slowness of the windowing system.) 2. A better rule than "Don=E2=80=99t use the menu" is "Use the menu when you are using a mode that you don=E2=80=99t use often or don=E2=80=99t use for = long". In those cases, you won=E2=80=99t have learned the mode-specific keybindings and commands. 3. If you do not use the toolbar or tool-tips, then to troubleshoot your problem, try to reproduce is by starting Emacs without any configuration customization (start with "emacs -Q") and see if the problem persists. If it does not persist, then start adding pieces of your customizations to the initialization file to see if you can isolate the source of the problem, which you can then ask about here on this mailing list. --