From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59580: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Add new choices to bookmark-sort-flag Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 12:59:07 -0600 Message-ID: <875y0urpc4.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <83bkonilbm.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzpbm6su.fsf@red-bean.com> <83le9qidl0.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Karl Fogel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28392"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 59580@debbugs.gnu.org, gabriel376@hotmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 19 20:04:53 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rFfOe-00074t-7f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 20:04:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rFfLK-0007rM-Bl; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:01:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rFfJx-0005gg-KB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:00:01 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rFfJw-0007Yt-AX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:00:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFfJy-0003IA-Ja for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:00:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Karl Fogel Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 19:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59580 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 59580-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59580.170301235512537 (code B ref 59580); Tue, 19 Dec 2023 19:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59580) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2023 18:59:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFfJD-0003G9-GU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 13:59:15 -0500 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([45.79.25.59]:35376) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFfJB-0003Fw-3F for 59580@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 13:59:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=red-bean.com; s=202005newsp; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: Reply-To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=1f8YVghahTDraQ9//aw0rCcR9uSEDP9tpmpkhYPzwAE=; t=1703012350; x=1704221950; b=kf3OU5YlPFwbOER4MB08FhuZCabChXfezRT3Plh1rcf8q9Y1WXur61/cj/KBN0WMpTqFxrUWKXb QWZxjKScNpNaqa7EZKrXhrpKqtg9I4edWttdGLcOIqUfB4aAuQskhmzJBbJmHrfQQRSeYuTYVLEgz ROex61wQAXKSA7DOIrtGyyVt+LLvMMlXUs68rf+HNf8KRwIoJ4HW24P93CU+YE86aP7VZp326XlVT s+sXfpTqIQBEwML6+vEyj5mE9whqmGzUt1Psfob62Rbn1VuRtw1J4Wj9/vksk/N9NftS/QT00BYlp 6vRnnpkdrM595ykexbG+ol73qxL5B1GGt8JQ==; Original-Received: from [2601:240:c400:76::5755] (port=35200 helo=libq) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFfJ7-0019aO-82; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:59:09 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83le9qidl0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:25:31 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:276537 Archived-At: On 19 Dec 2023, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Karl Fogel >> Cc: Gabriel , 59580@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2023 17:26:09 -0600 >> >> Regarding the use of `string-collate-lessp': >> >> I think using `string-collate-lessp' makes sense here. This is >> about sorted lists presented to the user, so the sorting should >> act according to locale (and when Emacs suspects that the >> locale >> wouldn't collate correctly, `string-collate-lessp' falls back >> to >> `string-lessp' anyway). > >It is IMO un-Emacsy to do things in locale-dependent manner. >Which >other feature do you know of that sorts text in locale-dependent >fashion? I have no idea -- I doubt I would ever notice it if a feature did sort that way, since I'd be accustomed to that sorting behavior. I also don't see why such behavior is particularly un-Emacsy. But I don't feel strongly about it; if you think `string-lessp' is better, let's use that. Best regards, -Karl