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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316145 gmane.emacs.orgmode:159784 Archived-At: I have been using the https://github.com/justbur/emacs-which-key for a long= time. However, today I took a closer look at this package to see if it has two features that I've found in 'quick-help' which I really like. Those two features are: 1. option for popup to be persistent, sticky It's a lifesaver for every new user to see permanently available keybindings, as well as for every user who starts use an unknown package. 'which-key' already has this feature implemented, variable `which-key-persistent-popup'. 2. option to divide keybindings into groups For example, with 'which-key' when I press 'C-h', popup with 50 keybindings will appear on the screen.=20=20 I'm completely overwhelmed by the amount of information. Making any decision is very tiring and difficult. Grouping will make it much easier to read and make a decision. I don't see this functionality in 'which-key' but I found a topic on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/kxd9z4/grouped_bindings_in_w= hichkey with repo link https://github.com/loafofpiecrust/dotfiles/blob/main/emacs/.config/doom/cus= tom/pretty-which-key.el where this feature has been implemented. Based on this information, I think it's worth waiting until 'which-key' is = integrated. And then implement the 'divide keybindings into groups' feature. I'm not familiar with https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/keysee.el But I could try to answer some questions about 'which-key'. Drew Adams writes: > 1. Doesn't which-key also provide the > possibility (e.g., on-demand instead of > by timer) to show all currently available > bindings at top level, i.e., not on a > prefix key)? I thought it had added that > feature at some point. > > If it doesn't, then that's another big > difference ("critical", you say) from > KeySee. Yes, it's available with command `which-key-show-top-level'. > 2. As for getting the completions in a > buffer that you can access "persistently" > (and, e.g., to search or edit): > > There should be a separate, more general > feature for that: be able to "save" the > current contents of `*Completions* (or > another buffer displaying completions) to > another buffer, regardless of what that > completions buffer is showing. > > IOW, this shouldn't be only about _key_ > completions and descriptions as help. > > Icicles provides such a feature (as does > Embark, IIUC). Emacs should have it. Hit > a key, enter a destination buffer name (or > just hit RET for a default name). Yes, you can copy or even edit 'which-key' 'popup'. > 3. Icicles can also show you complete help > for key completions shown in *Completions*, > in *Help*. And likewise for any other > kind of completions for which there's a > help description. > > Showing help for completions is another > general feature that Emacs should have. I don't know if 'which-key' has this option. --=20 S=C5=82awomir Grochowski