From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Candidate packages for ELPA bundling [Was: Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?] Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 07:47:01 +0000 Message-ID: <875xujanbe.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87bk4ql3u5.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <864jagu9ji.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmn076zr.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <87frtofbsg.fsf@yahoo.com> <95f1e7d8-193a-4ecd-94b8-cc7186dad0f9@gutov.dev> <87bk4cf8xr.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ikyk9bsx.fsf@posteo.net> <87v82jexgx.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35585"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Jeremy Bryant , Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 09:47:59 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sFqnu-00090H-Ct for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 09:47:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFqn9-0007Tq-Hd; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 03:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFqn8-0007TP-95 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 03:47:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFqn6-0000ox-I0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 03:47:10 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44B2C240029 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 09:47:03 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1717832823; bh=MeSQcFAVw2NCfHfje4qmecf+O0EJJ1RZYMaGEc/7FVA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:OpenPGP:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type:From; b=cKD6l46CUa9pnEOP5CRH9L/1cyBsgqbnFXUdpsQtj9OiANTiNCudS9Cfj460XHGJP HjY2alGjhphc/fJ77XavoddY/9WH1lJWfxqBYPF311uc9hscjEEdtAOevUYF2u4jj9 XuZHccxF9gDZ0YRPwZNnSzqAbuOeXQyti5RNayWzuCsGQKDDQCwYixP4NLQS+lOTxX HGzC0TWseS7OhDmsMkTKYktXgGezpsZtOSt95W57J0yKMlken01Y8AyoZ2bsaaXH7j 7so64BqVp5/FURae+KNCcV6Myi/ueKWbunRki8VrE/rIVh1Dj2nMviMcVDMPxbuIy5 jTuVW9h50alVw== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Vx9BY5tM6z9rxM; Sat, 8 Jun 2024 09:47:01 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87v82jexgx.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sat, 08 Jun 2024 14:54:06 +0800") OpenPGP: id=7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66; url="https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-fingerprint/7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66"; preference=signencrypt Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319890 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> How come? If we were to copy the branches from elpa.git to emacs.git >> and adjust the build system in such a way that the packages are checked >> out using worktrees (as elpa-admin does), then the bundled packages >> should be made available as a side-effect of trying to build Emacs. > > But does this not amount to leaving those packages as they stand, just > with a more cumbersome build process? I doubt very much that the > exponents of moving packages to ELPA had such an arrangement in mind > when they first framed their proposals, and to me this appears to offer > little advantage over the status quo. No, I am talking about moving packages from ELPA into the core, not the other way around. -- Philip Kaludercic on peregrine