From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Shutko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestions for mode-line-format changes Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:33:28 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <874rdl357r.fsf@wesley.springies.com> References: <5xk7mlfsvf.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030121137 19116 127.0.0.1 (23 Aug 2002 16:45:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 16:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17iHZ2-0004yD-00 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:45:36 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17iI2T-0007sj-00 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:16:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17iHaF-0000mD-00; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:46:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17iHW0-0000Kk-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:42:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17iHVy-0000KR-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:42:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.133]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17iHVx-0000KL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:42:25 -0400 Original-Received: from wesley.springies.com (ool-182f7213.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.114.19]) by mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 0.9 (built Jul 29 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H1B00MM129L7W@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from ats by wesley.springies.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17iHT6-0004v5-00; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:39:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5xk7mlfsvf.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 26 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6803 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6803 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > My suggestion is to move the global-mode-string to the > end of the mode line; the cost is that the time and > battery status isn't always shown (especially in > partial width windows). I've just updated to your changes, and I really don't like them. In one file, it took me from having everything in the modeline displaying on an 80-character-wide window to losing half of my battery status. People put stuff in global-mode-string because they always want to see them. They don't want to lose it because the mode-string is too long! Personally, I think that the global-mode-string information is more important to me than the modes, and this new change is exactly opposite my priorities. I think that most people would probably agree with me. Can we have a survey of some sort to decide whether to keep this change? (Right now, I yanked the entire mode-line setup out of the old bindings.el, but that means I lose out on actual improvements.) -- Alan Shutko - In a variety of flavors! Hell, I don't know. Just ask me, I'll tell ya.