all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bień)
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs too big for knoppix?
Date: 06 May 2003 15:21:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874r488b3n.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x5fznsnxxm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

On 06 May 2003  David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup) wrote:

> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

> > This may be true in some cases, but "installing a Debian system" is
> > not a well-defined destination.  Debian distributes non-free
> > packages as well as free ones.  Using Knoppix as it stands may be a
> > road to installing Debian with non-free packages and leaving it that
> > way.
> 
> So is the Internet.  Should we discourage getting Emacs via the
> Internet since one could install non-free packages that way, too?

Congratulation, David - this is an extremely good argument.

> 
> I'd love to add something akin to not being more papist than the pope,
> but it would be sort of tautological.
> 
> Anyhow, I don't know the Debian package system, but if I remember
> correctly, it does make it obvious which packages are free and which
> are unfree, and so the choice is for the user to make.  

Exactly. You decide to install non-free packages on a package by
package basis. At any moment you can review your installation and the
non-free packages are clearly separated.

> Freedom
> includes the user's freedom to install non-free software, and our
> freedom to pester^W educate him about it.  As long as we are dealing
> with informed choices, I guess that is more or less the extent of what
> one can and should do.

I fully support you.

BTW, the really radical approach would involve emigrating from a
country where law allows software patents, but the choice of
destination may become very limited :-(.

Regards to everybody

Janusz

-- 
                     ,   
dr hab. Janusz S. Bien, prof. UW
Prof. Janusz S. Bien, Warsaw Uniwersity
http://www.orient.uw.edu.pl/~jsbien/

  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-06 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-03 22:54 emacs too big for knoppix? Dan Jacobson
2003-05-04 12:47 ` Reiner Steib
2003-05-05  4:40 ` Janusz S. Bień
2003-05-05 14:32 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found] ` <mailman.5577.1052145371.21513.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-05 16:15   ` David Kastrup
2003-05-06 10:13     ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-06 10:59       ` David Kastrup
2003-05-06 13:21         ` Janusz S. Bień [this message]
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5626.1052227546.21513.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-06 15:02           ` David Kastrup
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305050510550.24800-100000@cle.linux.org.tw>
2003-05-04 23:04 ` jidanni
2003-05-05 10:29   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=874r488b3n.fsf@mimuw.edu.pl \
    --to=jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl \
    --cc=bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.