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From: floyd@barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson)
Subject: Re: emacs for everything?
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:45:38 -0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874qjo48ml.fld@barrow.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9mmdnc.46.ln@acm.acm

Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
>Floyd L. Davidson <floyd@barrow.com> wrote on Tue, 16 Nov 2004 04:20:48 -0900:
>
>All joking aside, you're making the mistake of assuming that everybody
>works like you do, and therefore your setup is universally optimal.  This
>isn't the case.

Your post wasn't even a good troll, much less much of a joke.
Can't you do better?

>It seems that you are an extreme "optical" worker, doing most of your
>work with your eyes.  You _need_ everything on your sticky screens at the
>same time.  If something isn't currently displayed, you kind of forget
>it's there - a bit like a baby up till the age of (?) 6 months.  At a
>guess, your manual dexterity probably isn't that well developed, which is
>why you find the mouse so attractive.  The mouse has got to be about the
>most clunky inefficient device ever invented, at least for anybody with a
>modicum of dexterity.
>
>I'm an extreme "manual" worker, doing nearly _all_ my work with my
>fingers and brain.  (In my spare time, I play a musical instrument.)  I
>can only usefully see one thing at a time on a computer screen, yet I
>retain in my brain a copy of where everything is - When using the input
>area, for example, I rarely even notice that it's at the bottom of the
>screen - my fingers type, my brain retainng an image of what I have just
>typed, and my eyes stay focussed on the text I'm working with.
>_Anything_ else on the screen is a distraction to me, even things like
>scroll-bars.  And dialogue boxes exploding into my face are sheer
>purgatory.  For me, Emacs on a console, with shift/control/alt arrow key
>combinations bound to movement and scrolling commands is optimal.
>
>Your mileage varies.  So does mine.

It does appear that what is a straight jacket to me is just a
snug warm wrapper (with blinders) to you.  You lack the ability
to make use of the extra functionality, so there is no point in
distracting you with functionality that is, for you, overly
complex.

I would like to know how you use your fingers and brain to
remember the _current_ time on a clock that you do not display?
(As just one very trivial example of how limited your described
environment is in a real world.)

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson           <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                         floyd@barrow.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-17 18:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-15  1:29 emacs for everything? Mike
2004-11-15  2:30 ` Henrik S. Hansen
2004-11-15 14:52   ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-11-15 16:32     ` Henrik S. Hansen
2004-11-16 10:09   ` William Xuuu
2004-11-16 13:20     ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-11-16 20:07       ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-17 13:22         ` Oliver Scholz
2004-11-17 15:30         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-11-17 18:45         ` Floyd L. Davidson [this message]
2004-11-17 20:11           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-11-17 22:07           ` Henrik S. Hansen
2004-11-18 18:51           ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-18 22:03             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-19  0:48             ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-11-19 19:41               ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-19 19:00         ` Cristian Gutierrez
2004-11-19 20:29           ` Leonardo Boiko
2004-11-26  4:51       ` William Xuuu
2004-11-23 12:27     ` Alex Polite
2004-12-06  2:39       ` David Combs
2004-11-15  2:51 ` V. L. Simpson
2004-11-15  3:03 ` David Hansen
2004-11-15  3:17 ` Galen Boyer
2004-11-15  7:06 ` Kin Cho
2004-11-16  1:57   ` Joe Fineman
2004-11-15  7:37 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2004-11-15 12:56 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2004-11-15 13:09 ` respower
2004-11-15 14:37 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-11-17 13:27   ` Oliver Scholz
2004-11-16 11:00 ` Kai Grossjohann
     [not found] ` <mailman.3054.1100603433.8225.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-16 15:41   ` Mathias Dahl
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-16  5:41 Joe Corneli
2004-11-17  3:24 ` Joe Corneli
     [not found] ` <mailman.3197.1100662500.8225.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-16 11:58   ` Fabian Braennstroem
2004-11-17 19:05     ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-11-20 17:19       ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-11-21  9:17         ` Janusz S. Bień
     [not found]         ` <mailman.363.1101029322.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-12-05  1:23           ` Zajcev Evgeny
     [not found]       ` <mailman.236.1100971735.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-20 18:18         ` Pascal Bourguignon
2004-11-20 21:40           ` Jay Belanger
2004-11-20 23:05             ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-21  9:29               ` Joe Corneli
2004-11-21 16:22             ` Pascal Bourguignon
2004-11-20 18:45         ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-11-22 10:27           ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-11-22 13:50             ` John Sullivan
2004-11-23 19:57             ` Maciek Pasternacki
2004-11-25 13:31               ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-11-25 14:52                 ` Maciek Pasternacki
2004-11-26  9:03                   ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-11-27 17:12                     ` Maciek Pasternacki
2004-11-27 19:50                       ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-11-28  1:29                         ` Maciek Pasternacki
2004-11-28 11:47                           ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-11-27 23:16                       ` Daniel Pittman
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1437.1101390082.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-25 15:19                 ` Mike
2004-11-25 15:45                   ` Maciek Pasternacki
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1058.1101240531.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-24  4:13               ` Lee Sau Dan
2004-11-24 13:10                 ` Maciek Pasternacki
2004-11-24 14:25                   ` Leonardo Boiko
2004-11-24 20:33                     ` Maciek Pasternacki
2004-11-24 20:49                       ` Leonardo Boiko
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.1312.1101329987.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-12-01 17:49                         ` Kevin Rodgers
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.1308.1101329036.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-25  3:16                       ` Pascal Bourguignon
2004-11-25 13:16                         ` Maciek Pasternacki
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.1434.1101389211.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-25 20:12                           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-25 21:03                             ` Maciek Pasternacki
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.1503.1101417224.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-27 22:00                               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-11-28  1:31                                 ` Maciek Pasternacki
2004-11-25 17:06                       ` Mathias Dahl
2004-11-28 14:29                       ` Lee Sau Dan
2004-11-28 20:24                         ` Joe Corneli
2004-11-30 10:00                     ` ken
     [not found]           ` <mailman.591.1101120112.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-24 23:58             ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-11-27 20:07               ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-11-27 23:08                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-11-28  1:33                 ` Maciek Pasternacki
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1945.1101634177.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-28 12:24                   ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-11-29 11:56                     ` Kai Grossjohann
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2151.1101729999.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-29 15:11                       ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-12-01 16:34                         ` Kai Grossjohann
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.2811.1101919485.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-12-03 19:55                           ` Floyd L. Davidson
     [not found]               ` <mailman.1836.1101586658.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-27 22:00                 ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-11-28 18:36                 ` David Hansen
2004-11-18 19:47     ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-17 20:50   ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-17 22:46     ` Joe Corneli
     [not found]     ` <mailman.3419.1100732160.8225.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-11-18 19:42       ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-11-18 22:41         ` Joe Corneli
     [not found] <mailman.2999.1100584262.8225.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-12-06  2:44 ` David Combs
2004-12-06  4:11   ` Pascal Bourguignon
2004-12-27  1:59     ` David Combs
2004-12-30  7:04       ` Ravi Uday
2004-12-30  7:30         ` Neon Absentius
     [not found]         ` <mailman.9951.1104392583.27204.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2004-12-30  9:32           ` Ravi Uday
2004-12-30  9:53             ` Christian Plate
2004-12-30  9:59             ` Neon Absentius
2004-12-30 10:17             ` Peter Dyballa
2004-12-30 12:25             ` kurtz
2004-12-30 15:11             ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-12-30 15:27               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-30 16:33                 ` Floyd L. Davidson
2004-12-30 16:39                   ` David Kastrup

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