From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs unconditionally loads tramp.el Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:10:38 +0200 Message-ID: <874q0cjiz5.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87r73n5o5x.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87hd4ewcj0.fsf@gmx.de> <87odyltqof.fsf@gmx.de> <87k698l5ww.fsf@gmx.de> <87slnwjktb.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1146337929 1751 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2006 19:12:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , romain@orebokech.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 29 21:12:06 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZurK-000521-M5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:12:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZurK-0004RE-29 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FZupy-0003Tp-Rc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:10:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FZupy-0003Su-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:10:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FZupx-0003Sl-Lw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:10:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZutN-0004ff-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:14:10 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 Apr 2006 19:10:36 -0000 Original-Received: from p54BD9FA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO localhost.local) [84.189.159.169] by mail.gmx.net (mp019) with SMTP; 29 Apr 2006 21:10:36 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3708877 Original-To: "Michael Price" In-Reply-To: (Michael Price's message of "Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:57:39 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110005 (No Gnus v0.5) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53613 Archived-At: "Michael Price" writes: > At work I did an informal survey of emacs users (we have quite a few) > and only one person other than myself had even heard of tramp. He > heard about it from me. Even the same situation around my office. Just one other Tramp user (but he's in the position to require and receive new features immediately :) > If other sites are anything like mine then I'd say that the few > people that will use tramp at all won't mind having "(require > 'tramp)" in their .emacs file and will already know they have to do > so. Maybe that was the wrong question. Tramp will be known better when it is shipped with Emacs 22. So you should ask around who's using ange-ftp, _this_ are potential Tramp users. > Michael Best regards, Michael.