From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unicode Lisp reader escapes Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:17 -0400 Message-ID: <874pzwy0g4.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> References: <17491.34779.959316.484740@parhasard.net> <87odyfnqcj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <17498.27200.911709.330947@parhasard.net> <877j4z5had.fsf@gmx.de> <87irohfrx1.fsf@gmx.de> <87vese5oxa.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <87lkt8ybui.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1147366056 6746 80.91.229.2 (11 May 2006 16:47:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 16:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, alkibiades@gmx.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 11 18:47:32 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEJa-0006Ya-Rn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 18:47:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEJZ-0005b2-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:47:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEJ0-0005OY-5u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEIy-0005Nn-Pm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FeEIy-0005Ne-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.188] (helo=tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FeEKU-00037h-6W; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:47:58 -0400 Original-Received: from alfajor ([70.55.147.184]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20060511164617.JOLJ28586.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:17 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D881BD78E2; Thu, 11 May 2006 12:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Thu, 11 May 2006 21:51:24 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54270 Archived-At: >>> It's just a lot of work for very little benefit: people have lived >>> with this problem for a while now and haven't found the workarounds to >>> be serious (basically: don't use utf-8 for those files and don't use >>> unify-8859-on-decoding if you manipulate such files). >>> I don't follow. Are you saying that this problem only occurs >>> for utf-8 encoding? >> IIRC such tables are used either during encoding to unicode (i.e. if you >> save as utf-8) or upon decoding (but only if you've enabled >> unify-8859-on-decoding). My memory is fuzzy, tho. > unify-8859-on-decoding-mode affects iso-8859-* coding > systems. If it is on, characters in a file of those coding > systems are decoded into iso-8859-1 or > mule-unicode-0100-24FF. That's the meaning "unify 8859". We seem to be in violent agreement. Stefan