From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: display.texi: (,) isn't documented. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:27:19 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <874plkkc3s.fsf@jurta.org> References: <20070605231947.GA2058@muc.de> <853b14q351.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181167743 14721 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2007 22:09:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Juanma Barranquero" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 07 00:09:01 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hw3gb-0001DL-1N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:09:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3ga-0001a0-7C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:09:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3gX-0001ZI-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3gW-0001Yu-1a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hw3gV-0001Yr-Ql for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hw3gT-00036D-Pb; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:08:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hw3gP-000LMp-4v; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:08:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Wed\, 6 Jun 2007 22\:09\:47 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 5bcd58edb95cdacf596e852bfe0375ec X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1124 [June 06 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72377 Archived-At: >> Maybe something like 561: and :2 and 561:2 ? That's visually >> formatted, pretty understandable (also has some relation to error >> message formatting), and even more compact. > > Yes! m:n (or m/n) is *much* more readable IMHO than "Lm Cn". Often I can't instantly recall what number belong to what in the format (LL,CC), so I need to type C-f a few times and see what number changes. Maybe this confusion arises from the fact that currently numbers are displayed in the order reverse to usual, where the first number in a pair of coordinates corresponds to the x-axis (Columns), and second - to the y-axis (Lines). > I even force them to fixed width: > > (setq mode-line-position '(:propertize ("%5l/" (3 "%c")) > face my-position-face)) > > It's not often that I edit files with more than 99999 lines or more > than 999 columns. I think it would be good to save more precious space in the modeline: to use 8 instead of 12 for the minimum length of the buffer name, to use 5 instead of 10 for the minimum length of line-number and column-number, to remove extra space between mode-line-position and mode-line-modes. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/