From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A plea for sanity from a frustrated hacker. Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:28:48 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <874plfantf.fsf@jurta.org> References: <20070609174130.GA3419@muc.de> <20070609202051.GA2399@muc.de> <87k5uc3fxk.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181486463 12338 80.91.229.12 (10 Jun 2007 14:41:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 10 16:41:01 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HxObD-00039G-As for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:40:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxObC-0003OA-RP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:40:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HxOax-00037G-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:40:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HxOaw-00036F-U6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:40:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HxOaw-00035e-Bk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HxOav-0005j2-Sf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1HxOas-000LDP-Qo; Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:40:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat\, 09 Jun 2007 23\:29\:29 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 0a21689c2f1d2e94d8aa83f1a1b60733 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1133 [June 09 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72578 Archived-At: >> BTW, I have another frustration with this function. I like to view >> the Help buffer and visit source code from it in the *same* window. >> The former is achieved by > >> (add-hook 'same-window-regexps "\\*Help\\*\\(\\|<[0-9]+>\\)") > >> But the latter is impossible since as can be seen in code above >> `help-function-def' calls the function `pop-to-buffer' which displays >> the source code buffer in a different window. > > For what it's worth, I'd hate the behavior you like. > So I don't think the code is wrong because the behavior should not be > determined by the code but by user preferences. I.e. the problem is that > the behavior of pop-to-buffer is not yet configurable enough. That's exactly what I meant. pop-to-buffer doesn't allow configuring its behavior to display the source buffer in the same Help window. I don't argue for changing its default behavior. How about adding a new user option, e.g `same-window-regexps-from'? By analogy with `same-window-regexps' it will contain a list of regexps saying that displaying a buffer from these buffers should appear in the same window. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/