From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Sung Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: guided tour suggestions Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:02:50 -0400 Message-ID: <874pksef39.fsf@phil.mit.edu> References: <87645ai4cl.fsf@phil.mit.edu> <85d4zi6jdo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183014182 23297 80.91.229.12 (28 Jun 2007 07:03:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 28 09:03:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I3o1s-0008UK-Am for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:03:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I3o1r-0003QV-S1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:02:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I3o1n-0003QG-IG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:02:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I3o1m-0003Q8-A2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:02:54 -0400 Original-Received: from biscayne-one-station.mit.edu ([18.7.7.80]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I3o1l-0004Ly-FU; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:02:53 -0400 Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id l5S72pne011190; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from phil.mit.edu (PHIL.MIT.EDU [18.243.2.47]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as psung@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id l5S72oQY029964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:02:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <85d4zi6jdo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Wed\, 27 Jun 2007 07\:45\:07 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-detected-kernel: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73966 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Would it be possible to make the screenshots with emacs -Q so that people see > what they get out of the box ... ? Good idea. > The guided tour ... shows an Emacs a) compiled without a modern toolkit > (Gtk+, Windows or Mac) b) without menus c) without toolbars d) without > scrollbars (for heaven's sake!) e) without font diversity. The only thing > hinting at fonts is a man-page f) without file dialogs g) without tooltips h) > without any non-ASCII character When I get a chance, I will make some screenshots with the default UI setup, and with more complex formatting/characters. --Phil