From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yavor Doganov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS HEAD fails to build on OSX 10.4 (macterm.c broken?) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 08:53:26 +0300 Organization: The GNU Emacs Church (Bulgarian eparchy) Message-ID: <874pi8mjah.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor@gnu.org> References: <86k5re4blv.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <200708291531.l7TFVnlD010335@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <86fy224aah.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <86bqcq4a4q.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <200708291604.l7TG4atk011108@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <867ine492x.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <863ay24826.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <200708291641.l7TGfo2t012413@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200708310812.l7V8Cgq9022040@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <86lkbnygii.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <46DC1EF6.1040002@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189058257 899 80.91.229.12 (6 Sep 2007 05:57:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 05:57:37 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 06 07:57:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITAMx-0007Xu-J8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:57:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITAMv-00042O-SE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITAMh-0003rl-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:57:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITAMf-0003pP-UF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:57:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITAMf-0003oz-NN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:57:17 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ITAMf-0000qw-3T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:57:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITAMa-0004kO-5D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:57:12 +0200 Original-Received: from 213.91.245.92 ([213.91.245.92]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:57:12 +0200 Original-Received: from yavor by 213.91.245.92 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 07:57:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.91.245.92 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.1 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.7 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Sanj=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) (gNewSense GNU/Linux) X-Jabber-ID: doganov@jabber.minus273.org X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77945 Archived-At: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: > > The former is the Carbon+AppKit port I'm recently developing on Emacs > 22. [...] > The latter is the Cocoa/GNUstep port, developed by Adrian Robert et > al. on Emacs 23. [...] > But I think it will not be late to do so after evaluating the two > ports that use Cocoa (i.e., Carbon+AppKit and Cocoa/GNUstep) from > various aspects. FWIW, (probably a well known fact) -- the GNUstep project has absolutely no plans to implement Carbon, even before Apple's announcement which finally made it clear that using Carbon should be discouraged. So unless the plans of your Carbon+AppKit port are to get rid of Carbon at some point, it is not an option for us (GNUstep users). It is not about a conflict or competition between these two ports, we just don't have an option if the alternative port is useless for GNUstep. This is more than unfortunate given the fact that we've been waiting for years for the merge of the unicode branch, hoping that the GNUstep merge will follow shortly afterwards. Of course, you are the one to decide what to do with your free time; I just regret that the most active developer on that front has a different vision that doesn't include GNUstep.