From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:55:45 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <874phlrn16.fsf@jurta.org> References: <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871wctziwv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <87lkb1z0vg.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <858x71w5f5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hclpyw4l.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <87myvehhvl.fsf@jurta.org> <87sl55eiv1.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190594645 18043 80.91.229.12 (24 Sep 2007 00:44:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 24 02:44:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZc3K-0007DA-TP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:43:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZc3I-0003Bd-F6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:43:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZc3F-0003BR-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:43:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZc3C-0003A7-2E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:43:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZc3B-0003A3-PL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZc3A-00050E-AD; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IZc35-000II3-C4; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:43:46 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun\, 23 Sep 2007 17\:55\:19 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 068dd79c68aafbc760c35e97c5d420ed X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1513 [September 21 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 25 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79643 Archived-At: > The splash screen is turned off on ttys, as well as after starting Emacs > with command line options "-f", "-funcall", "-e", "-eval", "-execute", > "-insert", "-find-file", "-file", "-visit", because beginners don't start > Emacs with these arguments. So now Emacs displays the startup screen > only when started with a file name like "emacs FILE..." on a window system. > > I tried it now, and it seems to be good. > > I guess the echo area change is ok. So you don't have to undo it. Please confirm should the same changes be made in Emacs-22? There were complaints about the undesired behavior of the startup screen in the released version. It would be good to fix this for Emacs-22.2. What would be the minimal set of necessary changes for the Emacs-22 branch? To turn the startup screen off on ttys, turn it off with non-file action command line arguments, something more? -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/