From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Earl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Requesting bzr repository of emacs on savannah Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:38:19 -0600 Message-ID: <874p4u8mlg.fsf@xmission.com> References: <140183.72815.qm@web95007.mail.in2.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220639949 11369 80.91.229.12 (5 Sep 2008 18:39:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dhruva , Emacs Development To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 05 20:40:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KbgDw-0002iF-BH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:40:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56763 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbgCw-0005dx-UD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:38:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KbgCr-0005cj-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KbgCp-0005cI-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48282 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KbgCp-0005c2-Lp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:38:51 -0400 Original-Received: from out02.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.232]:35462) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KbgCp-0007qZ-7S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:38:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mx04.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.214]) by out02.mta.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1KbgD9-0006n0-KY; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:39:11 -0600 Original-Received: from jearl.fttp.xmission.com ([166.70.233.10] helo=workhorse.earlhome) by mx04.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KbgWk-0006GP-QS; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:59:27 -0600 Original-Received: from nat.visiongrp.com ([65.162.166.20] helo=jearl-laptop) by workhorse.earlhome with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KbgCw-0002T7-Bn; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:38:58 -0600 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwEAAAAAAi+XoYAAAACXBIWXMAABKbAAASmwHgklkM AAAACXZwQWcAAAAwAAAAMADO7oxXAAABn0lEQVRYw7VY0bECMQikBftvwG+bsBu/LMC5iTEEFpYb zsmM+kLCXhbY8E4e79fz9Xy8j2/8ucac9dZ4r4wN0ZgO47+z3ccQtmTaD9e3+xgLhu8uAiznC6QI wI6I3U+IiyhC7msApSDj599j0aKoA1CiKAdgDLQB2hT1AChFs+j/lkVxod3uy9qkCBOlrc0sstHQ zLezaCUiXmetGvoHMINl1d2OfRbfFX5GGEHshP68eq6cRfwB9iQ4AVCDx1VyIk3PV8mEuICiSEpG mEs3Wg4fa1WxDhhI5H6coU1RBnAJRUzOLzhBFuQ2RRlEMYtqUpEUWq+SNZR3X6CIi91+N0Cxw203 lm/U1kdC/Wvf7SWhf0ftuu659/32ApL9uL4ZQVcmToFht5CC9VwremaPrCrIeMHK47EUC0E5TaNa rBRSqZJzRWetI5HriIDpoA2QORhLWPtO5JorOjtBA6Afg2+a5kHOsoyniMR5vooeu9CCEtuF1WL+ jzgWa1DJ/lWBFbvd7uU6sot9kvx1B3sZ4u1idX618vstgFp8f3f4PR9Y+Ouu/IUoxgAAAEV6VFh0 Y29tbWVudAAAeNpT8MxNTE9VSE/NSy1KLElNUUiqVHD3C1Vwz8gvLilOLsosKFHQSEkty0xOtS3I yy1KLNfkAgDinBJPLRajJgAAABp6VFh0anBlZzpjb2xvcnNwYWNlAAB42jMEAAAyADIppJqJAAAA IXpUWHRqcGVnOnNhbXBsaW5nLWZhY3RvcgAAeNozrDAEAAG3ANuDL4RgAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:27:16 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-XM-SPF: eid=; ; ; mid=; ; ; hst=mx04.mta.xmission.com; ; ; ip=166.70.233.10; ; ; frm=jearl@xmission.com; ; ; spf=neutral X-XM-DomainKey: sender_domain=xmission.com; ; ; sender=jearl@xmission.com; ; ; status=no signature X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 166.70.233.10 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dhruva@ymail.com, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jearl@xmission.com X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa02 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: **;Stefan Monnier X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:40:56 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mx04.mta.xmission.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103574 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I have been using the bzr repository of emacs from: >> http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/trunk/. I am using the development >> version of bzr and things have improved in terms of >> performance. I have also been lurking on the #bzr IRC channel and see >> a lot of positive vibes and focus on improving performance. > >> At this juncture, I request (once again) to the emacs maintainers to >> request savannah hackers to setup a read only bzr repository for >> emacs. I did chat on the #savannah on IRC and was told that the >> project maintainers need to make a request and they can easily do it. > >> The main reason I am making this request is that connectivity to >> "bzr.notengoamigos.org" is slow and affects the perception of bzr >> user. From 2 days, my connection is breaking mid way and prevents me >> from pulling changes. I am looking for something more reliable. > > I've been using a bzr branch for my own local branch and basically use > bzr for everything except "commit to trunk", ever since the > bzr.notengoamigos.org mirror was setup. Performance of bzr seems OK > for my use nowadays. I.e. we could switch to bzr "any time". The > main hurdle for now is that the bzr.notengoamigos.org itself is not > quite good enough and lacks all the merge info from Miles's Arch > mirror (it also lacks the file-move info). I'm really sorry that I haven't made any more progress on this front. I just graduated, and that took up a much larger amount of time than I would have guessed (which is probably why I hadn't graduated earlier :). I have been experimenting with several ways of getting a better bzr repository for Emacs, but I just haven't had time to track down the bugs in the import process that I have run into. Of course, if anyone else is interested in taking a crack that this problem I would certainly appreciate the help :). > So a new conversion of the CVS repository to bzr is needed that will > fix those problem. We could switch to bzr as soon as this is done. > > As for the speed of bzr.notengoamigos.org, I haven't noticed it being > slow (but then again I update every day or so, and usually at times > when I do other things anyway). But there's a copy of that branch up on > http://arch.savannah.gnu.org/archives/emacs/bzr/trunk, which any member > of the "emacs" group can update via sftp. bzr.notengoamigos.org is pretty well hosted. If anyone has problems updating their branches form there I would be interested in hearing about it. That's especially true if you start from one of the pre-made bzr repositories that I have at the site. I have seen problems with updates if the branch the person is updating from gets changed, but that shouldn't be a problem if you aren't pulling down all 100,000 changesets.