struggling with gnus imap

struggling with gnus imap

[Roger Mason]

Hello,

I'm (still) trying to get gnus to let me use IMAP to read my email on
our university server.

I have this in .gnus:

(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods 
      '(
	(nnml "") 
	(nnimap "mail.mun.ca" (nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX")))
	))

When I try to subscribe using U in the *Group* buffer I get this:

gnus-select-newsgroup: Couldn't activate group mail.mun.ca: 411 No
such group mail.mun.ca

I also tried subscribing to INBOX, with the same result.  Can someone
tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,
Roger

Re: struggling with gnus imap

[Richard Riley]

Roger Mason <rmason@mun.ca> writes:

> Hello,
>
> I'm (still) trying to get gnus to let me use IMAP to read my email on
> our university server.
>
> I have this in .gnus:
>
> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods 
>       '(
> 	(nnml "") 
> 	(nnimap "mail.mun.ca" (nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX")))
> 	))
>
> When I try to subscribe using U in the *Group* buffer I get this:
>
> gnus-select-newsgroup: Couldn't activate group mail.mun.ca: 411 No
> such group mail.mun.ca
>
> I also tried subscribing to INBOX, with the same result.  Can someone
> tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Roger

My imap connection is like so:

(setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "mymail"
		      (nnimap-stream ssl)
		      (nnimap-address "imap.server.net")
		      (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
		      (nnir-search-engine imap)		      
		      )

Then you query a list of IMAP groups and subscribe as you do to usenet ones.

-- 
 important and urgent problems of the technology of today are no longer the satisfactions of the primary needs or of archetypal wishes, but the reparation of the evils and damages by the technology of yesterday.  ~Dennis Gabor, Innovations:  Scientific, Technological and Social, 1970

Re: struggling with gnus imap

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Roger Mason <rmason@mun.ca> wrote :

| Hello,
>
| I'm (still) trying to get gnus to let me use IMAP to read my email on
| our university server.
>
| I have this in .gnus:
>
| (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods 
|       '(
| 	(nnml "") 
| 	(nnimap "mail.mun.ca" (nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX")))
| 	))
>
| When I try to subscribe using U in the *Group* buffer I get this:
>
| gnus-select-newsgroup: Couldn't activate group mail.mun.ca: 411 No
| such group mail.mun.ca
>
| I also tried subscribing to INBOX, with the same result.  Can someone
| tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>
| Thanks,
| Roger

I have this:

(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnimap "Maison"
 (nnimap-address "my.server.net")
(nnimap-server-port 993)
(nnimap-stream ssl)
 (nnimap-authenticator login)
(nnimap-authinfo-file "/home/jean/.authinfo"))))

Not everything is necessary, but the second line is; this is where you put
the internet name of the imap server. The name after "nnimap" on line 1 is
internal to your box.

Cheers,
-- 
Jean

Re: struggling with gnus imap

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Jean Magnan de Bornier <jean@bornier.net> wrote :

| Roger Mason <rmason@mun.ca> wrote :
>
| | Hello,
| >
| | I'm (still) trying to get gnus to let me use IMAP to read my email on
| | our university server.
| >
| | I have this in .gnus:
| >
| | (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods 
| |       '(
| | 	(nnml "") 
| | 	(nnimap "mail.mun.ca" (nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX")))
| | 	))
| >
| | When I try to subscribe using U in the *Group* buffer I get this:
| >
| | gnus-select-newsgroup: Couldn't activate group mail.mun.ca: 411 No
| | such group mail.mun.ca
| >
| | I also tried subscribing to INBOX, with the same result.  Can someone
| | tell me what I'm doing wrong?
| >
| | Thanks,
| | Roger
>
| I have this:
>
| (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnimap "Maison"
|  (nnimap-address "my.server.net")
| (nnimap-server-port 993)
| (nnimap-stream ssl)
|  (nnimap-authenticator login)
| (nnimap-authinfo-file "/home/jean/.authinfo"))))
>
| Not everything is necessary, but the second line is; this is where you put
| the internet name of the imap server. The name after "nnimap" on line 1 is
| internal to your box.
>
| Cheers,


Roger said, privately:
..................................
I now have this:

(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods 
     '(
	(nnml "") 
	(nnimap "MUN"
	 (nnimap-stream ssl)
	 (nnimap-address "mail.mun.ca")
	 (nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
	 (nnir-search-engine imap))
	))

When I start gnus should I not be able to subscribe to MUN using 'U'?
It does not work, I see *: MUN appear in the group buffer but when i
try to open the group I get 411 no such group.
...................................

What do you see when you "open server buffer" (use "^" in gnus to do that)?

-- 
Jean

Re: struggling with gnus imap

[Roger Mason]

Jean Magnan de Bornier <jean@bornier.net> writes:

> What do you see when you "open server buffer" (use "^" in gnus to do that)?

{nnfolder:archive} (opened)
     {nnimap:MUN} (opened)
     {nnml:} (opened)
     {nntp:coranto.ucs.mun.ca} (opened) (agent)

Thanks,

Roger

Re: struggling with gnus imap

[Sven Bretfeld]

Roger Mason <rmason@mun.ca> writes:

>> What do you see when you "open server buffer" (use "^" in gnus to do that)?
>
> {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
>      {nnimap:MUN} (opened)
>      {nnml:} (opened)
>      {nntp:coranto.ucs.mun.ca} (opened) (agent)

I also shifted from nnml to nnimap this week. I had similar problems at
the beginning. As far as I can remember, it worked after I deleted
(renamed) ~/.newsrc and ~/.newsrc.eld. But you have to subscribe to all
groups again and re-create your topics if you do that. But this takes
only a few seconds. Just open the server buffer with "^" enter the
servers (RET) and hit "u" on every relevant group. Your imap-Server MUN
should show all folders extant on the server as groups ready to be
subscribed.

You can create new imap-folders by hitting "G m" in the summary buffer.
Type in a name (e.g. "Important") RET nnimap:MUN RET. Hit "G del" if you
want to delete a folder.

I still don't know how I should configure expiry. I would like to delete
the mail in some folders by hand (in case of folders where I keep
messages that still demand action), while the usual inbox should delete
its contents automatically after some 30 days.

Greetings

Sven

Re: struggling with gnus imap

[harven]

"Sven Bretfeld" <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> writes:

> Roger Mason <rmason@mun.ca> writes:
>
>>> What do you see when you "open server buffer" (use "^" in gnus to do that)?
>>
>> {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
>>      {nnimap:MUN} (opened)
>>      {nnml:} (opened)
>>      {nntp:coranto.ucs.mun.ca} (opened) (agent)
>
> I also shifted from nnml to nnimap this week. I had similar problems at
> the beginning. As far as I can remember, it worked after I deleted
> (renamed) ~/.newsrc and ~/.newsrc.eld. But you have to subscribe to all
> groups again and re-create your topics if you do that. But this takes
> only a few seconds. Just open the server buffer with "^" enter the
> servers (RET) and hit "u" on every relevant group. Your imap-Server MUN
> should show all folders extant on the server as groups ready to be
> subscribed.
>
> You can create new imap-folders by hitting "G m" in the summary buffer.
> Type in a name (e.g. "Important") RET nnimap:MUN RET. Hit "G del" if you
> want to delete a folder.
>
> I still don't know how I should configure expiry. I would like to delete
> the mail in some folders by hand (in case of folders where I keep
> messages that still demand action), while the usual inbox should delete
> its contents automatically after some 30 days.
>
> Greetings
>
> Sven

This can be done using gnus-parameters. 
See (info"(gnus)Group Parameters") under the item expiry-wait. For example,

(setq nnmail-expiry-wait 30)
(setq gnus-parameters
 '(("imap.*\\|nndoc.*" 
     (expiry-wait . immediate))
   ("name-of-some-folder"
     (expiry-wait . never))))

Re: struggling with gnus imap

[Roger Mason]

Hello,

harven <harven@free.fr> writes:

> "Sven Bretfeld" <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> writes:
>
>> Roger Mason <rmason@mun.ca> writes:
>>
>>>> What do you see when you "open server buffer" (use "^" in gnus to do that)?
>>>
>>> {nnfolder:archive} (opened)
>>>      {nnimap:MUN} (opened)
>>>      {nnml:} (opened)
>>>      {nntp:coranto.ucs.mun.ca} (opened) (agent)
>>
>> I also shifted from nnml to nnimap this week. I had similar problems at
>> the beginning. As far as I can remember, it worked after I deleted
>> (renamed) ~/.newsrc and ~/.newsrc.eld. But you have to subscribe to all
>> groups again and re-create your topics if you do that. But this takes
>> only a few seconds. Just open the server buffer with "^" enter the
>> servers (RET) and hit "u" on every relevant group. Your imap-Server MUN
>> should show all folders extant on the server as groups ready to be
>> subscribed.
>>
>> You can create new imap-folders by hitting "G m" in the summary buffer.
>> Type in a name (e.g. "Important") RET nnimap:MUN RET. Hit "G del" if you
>> want to delete a folder.
>>
>> I still don't know how I should configure expiry. I would like to delete
>> the mail in some folders by hand (in case of folders where I keep
>> messages that still demand action), while the usual inbox should delete
>> its contents automatically after some 30 days.
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Sven
>
> This can be done using gnus-parameters. 
> See (info"(gnus)Group Parameters") under the item expiry-wait. For example,
>
> (setq nnmail-expiry-wait 30)
> (setq gnus-parameters
>  '(("imap.*\\|nndoc.*" 
>      (expiry-wait . immediate))
>    ("name-of-some-folder"
>      (expiry-wait . never))))

The key was surprizingly simple: "^"!

Thank-you Jean, Sven, Richard and Harven.  It is now working.  I will
be exploring how to move mail that I want to keep from the imap server
to my office machine over the coming days.  No doubt I will have more
questions.

Thanks again.

Roger