From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs-Lisp Bill-Board Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:27:21 +0200 Message-ID: <874ovoc73q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87vdrqo5sy.fsf@CPU107.opentrends.net> <878wn5n0oj.fsf@gnu.org> <87prec23jd.fsf@CPU107.opentrends.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242296871 22255 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2009 10:27:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Clemente Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 12:27:43 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M4YAA-0002b0-Vq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:27:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43682 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M4YAA-0006Lu-El for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 06:27:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M4Y9z-0006Iw-AB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 06:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M4Y9t-0006Gq-HJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 06:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55124 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M4Y9t-0006Gi-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 06:27:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]:13075) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M4Y9s-0003pw-Ij for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 06:27:24 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so373625fga.7 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 03:27:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bw4x9zDs85TtCBWadsCBtUnbC5YYBRvViIohvYv48tY=; b=a5LBdU787DC/2Rsv23vGLm/vvD8tSp8AE8QeSjzvGu+5D4sCIbSvSnJQ2NpmpothU7 xzNed0mB1UdRk3nyffpfTw4N5tSIOrR/ohFDyXbPxndAbFyZqBq6LedcD64P4XvJJbpt Bh0nkdzYX72UvlrToXLAZxifS6ZAoQ1X1y4/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xJuBinlZkBggOI0v5s8to7cC2xoxYVRle6/52/m3vZYS/7U363Golr0OIn3JANWmOw EmxBAhVZ54DWdM6ie1HY2qtxTgjtXi1o8EIRhoCcmzArMNrfpXI1iHfH/cXE10b6M2YU wONSXtGKRaU7Xj/eZyLHzHPRhLExpo05TdDh4= Original-Received: by 10.86.65.9 with SMTP id n9mr2338062fga.43.1242296843424; Thu, 14 May 2009 03:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg (n1sgir42.univ-paris5.fr [193.51.83.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm5119822fga.0.2009.05.14.03.27.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 14 May 2009 03:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ACDD01622DA; Thu, 14 May 2009 12:27:21 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87prec23jd.fsf@CPU107.opentrends.net> (Daniel Clemente's message of "Wed, 13 May 2009 21:42:14 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110869 Archived-At: Hi Daniel, thanks for your comments. ELBB is still alpha (not even beta), which means I don't advertize it that much because I cannot make sure my timetable let me actively maintain it. > 1. EmacsWiki's role is not about sharing Lisp code, but about Emacs in > general: tutorials, tasks to do, discussion, questions, bugs, … > It seems that ELBB's role is limited to code. ELBB is code-centric, but I hope good documentation will help make this code library more useful. Depends on the users. > 2. EmacsWiki can be edited anonymously; ELBB not. > Maybe a test user could be created and the login date shared so that > people can try it ELBB already allows pseudo-anonymity, because on repo.or.cz nobody knows you're a dog. (I guess the username imadog is not yet taken.) I also plan to add the mob user: http://repo.or.cz/mob.html This user will be able to push changes to a dedicated branch and elbb maintainers will be able to merge these changes. This is a limitation, but I hope we can go ahead anyway. > 3. EmacsWiki has a web interface > Probably there are web interfaces to repository which can commit > each edit or group of edits There is a web interface to see elbb evolution: http://repo.or.cz/w/elbb.git There is no web interface to edit elbb directly. But there is an emacs interface, it's called org-mode. When Emacs will know about the obby (or libinfinity) protocol, emacs users will be able to edit org-mode files collaboratively, which will make projects like elbb much more attractive than web projects like emacswiki. > I think that ELBB is useful, yes, but is not as easy as > EmacsWiki. If these things are solved, maybe some sample page can be > imported to ELBB so people can experiment with content. Yes. I have to work on it. > Maybe an emacswiki-to-org exporter is needed. Are there generic > exporters from EmacsWiki syntax to other syntaxes? I don't know - maybe ask Alex Schröder? Send me your repo.or.cz username, I'll be happy to add you as a elbb user. Thanks! -- Bastien