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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Reiner Steib <Reiner.Steib@gmx.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Differences between mail-mode and message-mode
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:05:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874ot4w13w.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8763dktv1l.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>

Reiner Steib writes:
 > On Wed, Jul 22 2009, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 > 
 > > Reiner Steib writes:
 > >
 > >  > Obviously the key bindings cannot be resolved without a change for
 > >  > either mail-mode or message-mode users.  Maybe set the bindings
 > >  > depending on some compatibility variable?
 > >
 > > How about the presence of Newsgroups?
 > 
 > >  > >  . In mail-mode C-c C-f C-f moves to FCC; in message-mode C-c C-f C-f
 > >  > >    moves to Followup-To, and C-c C-f C-w moves to FCC.
 > >
 > > Followup-To is rarely useful in a mail message.
 > 
 > A message-mode buffer can be news, mail or both.

Indeed.  That's why I mention "Newsgroups" above.  I'm conditioning
all my suggestions on "compatibility with the mail-only MUA that has
been default until now".  Ie, they apply only when it's *not* a news
post.  (As far as Emacs can tell so far: of course that can change if
the user desires.)

Of course this is a hack.  I think it's a shame that Gnus chose to
cater to 1-keystroke savings rather than keep a regular, mnemonic
keymap for default, but any attempt to change the Gnus keymap now will
of course meet a response greatly resembling in all ways the response
of mail-mode advocates to suggestions of change.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-23  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-17 12:43 message-mode is now default? Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 13:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 13:41   ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-18  8:59     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-17 14:14   ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-17 15:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-17 20:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-18  8:59     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-18  0:29   ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-18  1:19     ` Miles Bader
2009-07-18  5:51       ` Bastien
2009-07-18  6:52         ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2009-07-18 13:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 11:41           ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?) Reiner Steib
2009-07-19 12:32             ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Sven Joachim
2009-07-19 17:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 18:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-22  7:35             ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode (was: message-mode is now default?) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-22 18:46               ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode Reiner Steib
2009-07-23  3:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2009-07-23  5:03                   ` Miles Bader
2009-08-03 19:57           ` message-mode is now default? Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-04  6:12             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-18 13:48         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-18 14:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-18 15:11             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-18 15:33               ` David Kastrup
2009-07-18 15:44                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-18 16:44                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-18 18:29               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19  0:34                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-07-19  9:09                 ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 10:52                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19 11:10                   ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 11:16                   ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-19 14:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-20 12:33                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-20 13:29                       ` Teemu Likonen
2009-07-20 14:20                         ` Miles Bader
2009-07-20 16:32                           ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-21  9:05                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-22  3:00                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-20 15:32                         ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-19 17:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-21  9:05                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-21 10:13                       ` Miles Bader
2009-07-23 13:46                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19  4:37           ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-19  4:54             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-19 17:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-07-19 23:21               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-19  4:59             ` Miles Bader
2009-07-19 23:21               ` Richard Stallman
2009-07-20 16:46               ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-20 20:42                 ` Reiner Steib
2009-07-19  8:07           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19  9:32             ` David Kastrup
2009-07-19 10:24               ` Bastien
2009-07-19 10:52               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2009-07-19 11:56                 ` Differences between mail-mode and message-mode - sending mail (was: message-mode is now default?) Reiner Steib

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