From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen. Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:27:46 +0900 Message-ID: <874ooo2v7x.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20091118191258.GA2676@muc.de> <20091119082040.GA1720@muc.de> <87aayitvoy.fsf@wanchan.jasonrumney.net> <87ocmyf6so.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87vdh57tp2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <878we1ekb0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hbso347j.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877htk2xbk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258788102 17589 80.91.229.12 (21 Nov 2009 07:21:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 21 08:21:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NBkHl-0002kq-1q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:21:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35049 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBkHk-0003A0-5b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:21:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBkHd-00038J-44 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:21:25 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBkHY-00032p-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:21:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50221 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBkHX-00032T-Tk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:21:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:49908) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NBkHX-0003Gw-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:21:19 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB52A1537B6; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:21:17 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5500E1A25EE; Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:27:46 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" d20e0a45a4b2 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117416 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > 241 is perfectly valid in multibyte strings (as well as in > unibyte-strings). OK, so "invalid" was up to Emacs 22, then? So the problem is that because characters are integers and vice versa, there's no way for the user to let Emacs duck-type multibyte vs unibyte strings for him. If he cares, he needs to check. If he doesn't care, eventually Emacs will punish him for his lapse. I suppose subst-char-in-string is similarly useless for Alan's purpose, then? What he really needs to use is something like (replace-in-string str "\n" "=F1") right?