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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivano@gnu.org>
Cc: "Per Starbäck" <per@starback.se>,
	1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs for new users
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:49:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874oolarvt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zl6dgjt1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:47:22 -0500")

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:

>>> * beeping is often disturbing and unexpected, in particular for
>>> scrolling past the beginning or end of the
>>>   buffer with the scroll wheel. (I agree. That's hardly an error.)
>>
>> yes, I agree with you, beeping is often disturbing.  You can disable it,
>> changing the value of visible-bell to t:

> This is bug#1305.  That discussion never came to a conclusion.

One complication, now that I recall, is that we really do want to signal
an error for beginning-of-buffer and end-of-buffer, so that keyboard
macros will terminate.

The problem is that we have no mechanism for telling Emacs not to ring
the bell for certain classes of errors.

But I'm not sure Emacs should even be in the bell-ringing business,
anyway; it's a barbaric practice, and an echo-area message IMHO
suffices.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-23 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-23 16:37 Emacs for new users Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 16:59 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-11-23 18:47   ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 20:49     ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2009-11-26 22:35       ` bug#1305: Beeping (was: Emacs for new users) Juri Linkov
2009-11-26 22:35       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-26 23:12         ` bug#1305: " Lennart Borgman
2009-11-26 23:12         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  4:12           ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27  6:48             ` bug#1305: Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  6:48             ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 19:25               ` bug#1305: Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 19:25               ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 20:25                 ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 23:12                   ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 23:15                     ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-28  1:49                       ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-28  2:47                         ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 20:25                 ` bug#1305: Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  4:12           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 20:49     ` bug#1305: Emacs for new users Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 17:05 ` Stephen Eilert
2009-11-24 14:10   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-24 14:43     ` Renaud Casenave-Péré
2009-11-24 16:10       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-25 21:01       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-30 23:02       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-24 15:51     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 16:41       ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 17:15         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:27           ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 17:35             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:51             ` Deniz Dogan
2009-11-24 18:37               ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 18:03           ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:06             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 18:22               ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:30                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 19:35                   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 19:40                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:02           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 21:04             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:57             ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:05               ` Drew Adams
2009-11-25 22:27                 ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:34                   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-26  6:23               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 18:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 19:35   ` Les Harris
2009-11-23 20:28     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:04       ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 21:16         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 22:05             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-30 22:55         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-30 23:01           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-01  9:13           ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-01 10:13             ` Miles Bader
2010-11-13 19:14               ` separating CUA rectangles from CUA selection mode [was: Emacs for new users] Drew Adams
2009-11-23 21:16     ` Emacs for new users Stephen Eilert
2009-11-23 22:06       ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:43         ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:46           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 23:55           ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-24  6:43           ` tomas

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