From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bell Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:02:43 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <874okalexo.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de> <76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com> <87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20100317.200901.408057447.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <87sk7y2gh9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87bpelic8g.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <878w9ox1x4.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87d3z074fs.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87tyscysm2.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269132051 1957 80.91.229.12 (21 Mar 2010 00:40:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 21 01:40:43 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nt9De-0001Rs-Qy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:40:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45865 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nt9De-0007As-3c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:40:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nt9DY-0007AX-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:40:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34290 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nt9DQ-00079a-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:40:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nt9DK-000152-RG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out2.starman.ee ([85.253.0.4]:58184 helo=mx2.starman.ee) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nt9DK-00014q-Lf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:40:22 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx2.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (62.65.209.96.cable.starman.ee [62.65.209.96]) by mx2.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E443F410D; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:40:16 +0200 (EET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:24:33 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122391 Archived-At: > The first issue is "when we decided we want to ring the bell, how do we > do it". Personally I *hate* it when my computer makes a "beep", so the > only option I consider acceptable is the visual bell. > > For this reason, I strongly advocate we use a visual bell by default. It's hard to find a user who doesn't hate a beep ;) Visually impaired people would prefer audible feedback, but I suppose emacspeak takes care of this setting. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/