From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:21:29 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <874ohen792.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1275929220 7321 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2010 16:47:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:47:00 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 07 18:46:59 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLfTV-0007j6-Cl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:46:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLfTU-0005ce-Kz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:46:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53542 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLf5E-0002IN-FB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLf59-0006cK-47 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:38607) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLf58-0006cF-V4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:21:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLf55-0006sI-0f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:21:43 +0200 Original-Received: from p5b2c2eef.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.46.239]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:21:43 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c2eef.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:21:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ connect(): No such file or directory Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c2eef.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dXUuulMrYgn/Q91/4oJnec+0nrc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125595 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 17:19, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Actually, the arrow keys don't do "visual motion".  They just use >> logical motion like C-f/C-b except that they switch direction depending >> on the current paragraph's default direction (i.e. right-arrow will >> still move left when in an R2L piece of text within an L2R paragraph, as >> can be seen in the arabic text in the HELLO file). > > Moving around that line, I see no difference between using and > C-f. What am I doing wrong? There is no R2L paragraph in that file. -- David Kastrup