From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:38:18 +1000 Organization: Unlimited download news at news.astraweb.com Message-ID: <874oh44ovp.fsf@rapttech.com.au> References: <089883ee-0a63-4cb4-a0ec-d2fe4e71cc03@y18g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <87wruco5yq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87wrubfd8p.fsf@rapttech.com.au> <848w6ndwn0.fsf@cs.bham.ac.uk> <87d3vx5cku.fsf@gmail.com> <87bpbcrdk5.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291834846 27429 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2010 19:00:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 19:00:46 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 20:00:40 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQPFl-0003gh-2I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:00:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36553 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQPFk-0002Vk-Cb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:00:36 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.astraweb.com!border1.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Followup-To: gnu.emacs.help Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Br1w4WwC76NyVMgWOwWlP4f2fAA= Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ec180751.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=oVD01D:C>7U<>SSnB4kIGXL?0kYOcDh@Zi=VFiPm?<[U8P?8[VnF4CWK\<3KT5N\]UIJkej0 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:75844 Archived-At: Uday S Reddy writes: > On 6/15/2010 7:54 AM, Pascal J. Bourguignon wrote: > > The question is really whether it should have been made the default. > > Every time I narrowed down to that issue in this thread, the participants have > fallen silent (first Xah Lee then Tim Cross, Alan Mackenzie and Stefan > himself). I guess there is no good answer to it. > WTF. I believe I've responded to every single one of your posts directed to me. I've lost count of how many times I've posted in this thread saying that I DO NOT AGREE WITH IT BEING MADE THE DEFAULT. I agree with the functionality and I agree with introducing changes that change the existing semantics of next-line etc in order to provide the valuable addition of visual line editing (which BTW I seem to remember you or Mark rejecting outright). I suggest you need to take some of your own advice and go back and read the posts again. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au