From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:14:43 +0200 Message-ID: <874ofz8cik.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <201007161927.31648.tassilo@member.fsf.org> <87iq4f8gyh.fsf@telefonica.net> <201007162015.50531.tassilo@member.fsf.org> <878w5b8d8n.fsf@telefonica.net> <87tynzjlmc.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279307706 11117 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2010 19:15:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:15:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 16 21:15:05 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZqNB-0005bK-5G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:15:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44964 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZqNA-0000g2-FV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:15:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42026 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZqN4-0000fn-GB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:14:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZqN3-0000Wg-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:14:54 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:35615) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZqN3-0000WS-Bz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZqN1-0005ZH-Cc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:14:51 +0200 Original-Received: from 83.42.13.171 ([83.42.13.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:14:51 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 83.42.13.171 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:14:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.42.13.171 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EbVUssZCVECy9RGBE+zbZOb7b84= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127455 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: >> Again, mnemonics is a petty issue. Muscle memory is the ruling factor. > > For vi. Editing with Emacs is slower and involves more brain. I don't know for you, but for me C-w C-d C-k C-n and others are driven by my reptilian brain. On this aspect I see no difference with vi > The possibilities of Emacs fold out too large for muscle memory. Sure, that's because discoverability is one of the things that Emacs shall improve.