From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:47:11 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <874o7dtpow.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87ei6mz24h.fsf@lifelogs.com> <20110306072147.GA11067@event-horizon.homenet> <871v2i525h.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oc5lx607.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hbbd5yb7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299610061 13643 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2011 18:47:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:47:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 19:47:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Px1wW-0002GL-Ja for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:47:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49687 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px1wW-0001Tl-5U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:47:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48633 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px1wN-0001SW-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:47:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px1wM-0003Yb-La for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:47:27 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:37409) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px1wM-0003YO-4c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Px1wJ-00029D-NE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:47:23 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:47:23 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:47:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LEnmBJH/wBLgWZtrpyQGKRb9Tig= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:136902 Archived-At: On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:14:52 -0500 Chong Yidong wrote: CY> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> If you're against including the load-dir in the core and enabling it by >> default, how about making it a GNU ELPA package so it's easily >> installable? CY> It's a bit too trivial to be a package. CY> Just to be specific: are you simply asking for a function to iterates CY> through the files in a directory loading them? Or is it more CY> complicated than that? I'm asking for a defcustom, e.g. `load-dir', *in the Emacs core* which, when set to a list of directories, will tell Emacs to load all the files in the directory without recursion. The default should be nil. This should not require .emacs modifications. I suggested packaging it as an alternative in case it was not allowed in the Emacs core. I realize it seems trivial but it's really convenient for managing snippets, ELisp files, and modularizing .emacs. On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:30:14 -0800 Chad Brown wrote: CB> It turns out that what Ted really wants is a way to load all the elisp CB> files in a directory without listing them explicitly. The entire CB> security, package, and downloader discussion (in which I suggested CB> using el-get) was a side-effect of premature overgeneralization. If this makes it into Emacs, the effect for Dimitri's el-get will be to simplify the installer and make it Just Work, without modifying the load-path. In fact installing any ELisp .el file *manually* will be simpler. Helping el-get was the reason I started this thread, but I have selfish reasons too: it would make my life much easier. el-get may choose to use this facility directly as well (to manage EmacsWiki recipes, for instance), but I don't know Dimitri's plans and it already manages recipes in subdirectories. Ted