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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:47:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874o7dtpow.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87hbbd5yb7.fsf@stupidchicken.com

On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:14:52 -0500 Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote: 

CY> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> If you're against including the load-dir in the core and enabling it by
>> default, how about making it a GNU ELPA package so it's easily
>> installable?

CY> It's a bit too trivial to be a package.

CY> Just to be specific: are you simply asking for a function to iterates
CY> through the files in a directory loading them?  Or is it more
CY> complicated than that?

I'm asking for a defcustom, e.g. `load-dir', *in the Emacs core* which,
when set to a list of directories, will tell Emacs to load all the files
in the directory without recursion.  The default should be nil.  This
should not require .emacs modifications.

I suggested packaging it as an alternative in case it was not allowed in
the Emacs core.  I realize it seems trivial but it's really convenient
for managing snippets, ELisp files, and modularizing .emacs.

On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:30:14 -0800 Chad Brown <yandros@MIT.EDU> wrote: 

CB> It turns out that what Ted really wants is a way to load all the elisp
CB> files in a directory without listing them explicitly. The entire
CB> security, package, and downloader discussion (in which I suggested
CB> using el-get) was a side-effect of premature overgeneralization.

If this makes it into Emacs, the effect for Dimitri's el-get will be to
simplify the installer and make it Just Work, without modifying the
load-path.  In fact installing any ELisp .el file *manually* will be
simpler.  Helping el-get was the reason I started this thread, but I
have selfish reasons too: it would make my life much easier.

el-get may choose to use this facility directly as well (to manage
EmacsWiki recipes, for instance), but I don't know Dimitri's plans and
it already manages recipes in subdirectories.

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-08 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-01 20:32 user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-03 21:07 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04  9:55   ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-04 17:18     ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 18:04       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-04 18:37       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 19:35         ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 19:45           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 19:54             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-04 20:21               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 20:25               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:46                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 19:24                   ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:26               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-04 20:08             ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 20:24               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 21:17                 ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-04 21:33                   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-04 21:37                     ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-05  3:18                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-05 19:11                       ` Chad Brown
2011-03-06  7:21                       ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-07 16:24                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-07 17:18                           ` Chad Brown
2011-03-07 17:59                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 17:36                             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 18:30                               ` Chad Brown
2011-03-07 17:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-07 20:39                             ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-08  2:46                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 10:26                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 17:14                                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-08 18:47                                     ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-03-08 19:23                                       ` Julien Danjou
2011-03-09  2:54                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-09 19:57                                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-08 20:59                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-08 21:38                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  7:06                                       ` Jan D.
2011-03-09  7:17                                         ` Christoph Scholtes
2011-03-09 10:01                                           ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-09 15:42                                             ` `custom-file' and init-file [was: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir] Drew Adams
2011-03-09 17:54                                               ` `custom-file' and init-file Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 21:19                                               ` `custom-file' and init-file [was: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir] Evans Winner
2011-03-09 21:39                                                 ` `custom-file' and init-file [was: user-controlled load-pathextension: load-dir] Drew Adams
2011-03-10  2:52                                                 ` `custom-file' and init-file [was: user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir] Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 17:29                                             ` user-controlled load-path extension: load-dir Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 18:18                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 19:33                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 19:57                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  3:20                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-10  5:01                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  7:08                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-10 13:15                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-11  2:10                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-09 21:57                                         ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-10  7:08                                           ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-09  6:03                                   ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-09  7:20                                     ` Jan D.
2011-03-09 23:44                                       ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-08  0:47                           ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-08 10:37                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09  6:26                               ` Mike Mattie
2011-03-09 11:26                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-03-08  7:14 Ben Key
2011-03-08  9:58 ` Evans Winner
2011-03-08 18:49   ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-08 18:05 bug#8205: " Ben Key
2011-03-08 18:49 ` Ben Key
2011-03-08 20:01   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 20:25     ` Chad Brown
2011-03-08 20:38       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-08 22:40         ` Chad Brown
2011-03-09  9:36           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-09 11:52             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-08 22:57     ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  3:28       ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  6:50         ` Ben Key
2011-03-09  7:29           ` Jan D.
2011-03-09 16:00             ` Ben Key
2011-03-09 11:39           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 19:51       ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-09 20:08         ` Ben Key
2011-03-09 20:18         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-09 20:32           ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-09 20:44             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10 11:30             ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 14:27               ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-10 17:23                 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 18:33                   ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-10 18:56                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 19:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-10 20:30                       ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 21:54                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-11  8:43                           ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-10 19:36                     ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-11 15:00               ` chad
2011-03-11 17:41                 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-12  5:51                   ` chad
2011-03-12 10:09                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-03-11 18:51                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 14:16             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 15:43               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 20:08                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17  2:13                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  3:34                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17  4:42                       ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-16 20:11               ` Evans Winner
2011-03-16 20:23                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-10  2:21         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  4:22 Ben Key
2011-03-17  6:31 ` Evans Winner
2011-03-17 10:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 20:11   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 21:01     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 21:05       ` Tom Tromey
2011-03-17 21:23         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 22:50           ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-18  2:46             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18 10:56               ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-03-18 13:07                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18  2:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-19  4:10 Ben Key
2011-03-19 13:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19 16:07   ` Ben Key
2011-03-19 14:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-20  2:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-20 12:05   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 15:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-23 20:33       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-24  0:03 Ben Key
2011-03-24 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-26 11:37   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-02 18:35     ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-04  9:54       ` Ted Zlatanov

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