From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Compiled files without sources????
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 21:33:42 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874o21pazd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC=50j9949tU97+EN5Cu0Me8=NCPKPx2wmQgi_P7jjQ9mD4=pw@mail.gmail.com>
Tim Cross writes:
> I think it is far more likely the error was due to an honest error
> in understanding/interpretation of the licensing requirements
> rather than the somewhat malicious and deliberate interpretation
> you have suggested.
No malice at all is implied, just a lack of due diligence. Obviously
there was an error in understanding the implications of the licensing
requirements for what Emacs *should* do (though Emacs is in no way
legally bound, of course). More important in my opinion is the fact
that portions of the build process and sources were removed to make
maintenance easier, leaving "unmaintainable binary content" as David
Kastrup describes it. Evidently the maintainers did not consider at
all that the users' rights to study, modify, and redistribute the code
would thereby be impaired.
Deliberate, yes. In http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/115057
Chong Yidong writes: "I think it's better for us to merge just the
generated Lisp grammar files, leaving the grammar development for
upstream. It's an awful lot of infrastructure to pull in...." IMO,
"just the generated files" should be a red flag for any maintainer
working with copyleft licensing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-01 12:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-10 5:34 Emacs 23.3 released Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 8:58 ` Bastien
2011-03-10 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 16:22 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-10 16:54 ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 17:54 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-10 18:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-10 19:17 ` State of the CEDET merge (was: Emacs 23.3 released) David Engster
2011-03-11 14:29 ` State of the CEDET merge Lluís
2011-03-11 14:45 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 15:48 ` Lluís
2011-03-12 9:42 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 13:15 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2011-03-12 20:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-13 14:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-14 19:55 ` Lluís
2011-03-14 20:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-14 22:28 ` Lluís
2011-03-13 15:13 ` David Engster
2011-03-14 20:08 ` Lluís
2011-03-15 1:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 14:03 ` Lluís
2011-03-16 15:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 15:30 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-16 20:23 ` Lluís
2011-03-18 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-18 17:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-24 8:14 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-24 10:01 ` David Engster
2011-07-24 13:11 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 2:46 ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-27 6:25 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 7:21 ` David Engster
2011-07-27 7:39 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 8:06 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-07-27 8:24 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 16:14 ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-07-27 17:57 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-28 5:53 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-28 10:02 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-28 23:00 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-28 23:28 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-29 14:32 ` Milan
2011-07-29 22:33 ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30 2:12 ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30 4:36 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30 20:33 ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30 23:20 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-07-31 4:46 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-31 11:03 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:29 ` Tim Cross
2011-07-31 17:45 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-07-31 17:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-31 18:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 20:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-31 21:47 ` David Engster
2011-07-31 22:36 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 23:15 ` David Engster
2011-08-01 0:14 ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 23:10 ` Tim Cross
2011-08-01 12:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2011-08-01 13:14 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-01 14:37 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-01 14:42 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-08-02 0:13 ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-02 7:10 ` David Kastrup
2011-08-03 4:17 ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-02 0:13 ` Letting the users off the hook Richard Stallman
2011-08-03 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-03 6:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-03 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 23:56 ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 16:19 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 17:04 ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 23:56 ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-01 3:08 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-01 21:28 ` Replacing tarballs on-the-fly (was: Re: Compiled files without sources????) Ulrich Mueller
2011-08-02 16:09 ` Replacing tarballs on-the-fly Chong Yidong
2011-08-02 17:43 ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-08-03 4:17 ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-03 20:31 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-02 0:13 ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-08-02 15:56 ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-03 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-29 16:25 ` Evgeny M. Zubok
2011-07-29 16:37 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-29 23:40 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30 12:56 ` Evgeny M. Zubok
2011-07-30 13:25 ` David Kastrup
2011-07-30 20:55 ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 16:19 ` Richard Stallman
2011-03-10 16:45 ` Emacs 23.3 released Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-11 4:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11 4:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-11 9:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-11 20:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11 23:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-12 0:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-12 1:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 19:21 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-03-11 4:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11 7:14 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-03-12 3:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-12 12:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-14 14:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 15:51 ` Lexbind (was: Emacs 23.3 released) Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 1:59 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 10:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 12:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 15:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 18:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 19:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 19:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19 0:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19 8:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-19 9:28 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 20:01 ` Lexbind Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 22:07 ` Lexbind Wojciech Meyer
2011-03-17 23:29 ` Lexbind Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-18 7:39 ` Lexbind joakim
2011-03-10 19:27 ` Emacs 23.3 released Mike Mattie
2011-03-10 19:56 ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-11 8:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-11 16:56 ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-11 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 18:57 ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-12 9:28 ` updating web manuals [Re: " Jim Meyering
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