From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes to ELisp manual in revision 106667 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:39:43 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <874nx17c28.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87k4601sjh.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1323985393 26953 80.91.229.12 (15 Dec 2011 21:43:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 15 22:43:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RbJ52-0007nN-5v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 22:43:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44311 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbJ51-00021r-Nm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:43:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56101) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbJ4z-00021P-2R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbJ4w-0002pG-PR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:43:05 -0500 Original-Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]:52576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbJ4t-0002nS-HD; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA07075406D; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:42:57 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6766451C6C5; Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:42:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:28:53 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.113.175.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146733 Archived-At: > It's a convenience feature: the user types "m Eval RET" instead of "m > Lisp Eval RET". This leaves the node names sufficiently non-generic > to prevent collision, and yet does not punish users by causing them to > type more text. I'm more worried about the convenience of using prefixes in M-x to complete command names used several times every day. For instance, there are no keybindings for customization commands, and `M-x cus TAB' used to complete to `customize', but now this is not easy to do after `custom-theme-visit-theme' with the shorter prefix `custom' now is exposed to the list of commands. This problem can be solved by using the capitalized prefix `Custom-' like for other similar internal commands of Customization UI.