From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mac OS-compatible ports Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:24:59 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <874nwfd07o.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <9E637EAB-A0C5-421B-9CCA-71C41442AF52@gmail.com> <87ipl7zaea.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sjkbib14.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d3baui4b.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxacqlg4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwg3pfy4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739c2dscy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ehvkdgfr.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325424325 2550 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2012 13:25:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 13:25:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 01 14:25:22 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLPZ-00033z-NH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:25:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39833 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLPZ-0001xT-3K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:25:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54194) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLPW-0001xC-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:25:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLPV-0000fq-3O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:25:14 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:53390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLPU-0000fk-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 08:25:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhLPS-0002x6-8I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:25:10 +0100 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:25:10 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:25:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lKykWUTdCoU+ClWt0HCbX8PXXFQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147120 Archived-At: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:26:19 +0800 Leo wrote: L> On 2011-12-31 21:22 +0800, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> I agree with your statement, but we're not "pushing" the NS port only >> because it's for GNUstep. It's quite usable on Mac OS X. L> I wonder how you reach that conclusion. By using the NS port on Mac OS X. L> My experience is that it is not [usable]. John Wiegley were also L> disappointed by the ns-port some months ago and he has been happy L> using the Mac-Port. OK, we'll have to disagree on that point. L> My impression is that Mac-Port is a piece of solid well-engineered L> software. It is a pity not more Mac users can make use of it and have L> to resort to nonfree software such as TextMate etc. True. But the same can be said of the NS port, in my opinion. Ted