From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:27:26 +0530 Message-ID: <874nghyujt.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9iwcp.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363071448 22969 80.91.229.3 (12 Mar 2013 06:57:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Richard Stallman , Subhan Tindall , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 12 07:57:53 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UFJ9k-00045W-Re for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 07:57:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54933 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFJ9O-0002Dy-Aq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:57:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFJ9K-0002BU-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:57:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFJ9J-0002as-Fd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com ([209.85.160.54]:39083) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFJ9H-0002aM-OT; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 02:57:23 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id rr4so4656688pbb.27 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:57:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=D4gOth3E59pjsN7ejWC/YH3tfq7L9T+JgvH9ev0VCxo=; b=eiiunyS8Ndg8mNQlbKYUoi7f9wsmfQWmMKQc/dCybsqwW/Nq88XPbToD2s9wkuA6jC Cp5hrOsydSmFypZWzIn1bql09IfmdPBFhQySKwtnsUPVM5kxXBk7kxRS0IkD+C42tsqG /DoiTG/6nqLtn1VKCtqQzoAVhC4lLsWZrU0OKA1aodncTBLzTPlacU8Cl2ZcozlShVQ7 bSG1J5XFQuCRpckXgn4//DqTNfU8/ONjEl6cyVKRi5XJp/iHPnnE3046yrPjBDgW9fq4 RJgh0cuc5DedU5Fr31GxgK8/iKzxyeU5Esd6/vwbtKHlcOoGoOwwu7mz6YeHF+QyPHGC 1Idg== X-Received: by 10.68.48.168 with SMTP id m8mr28931144pbn.138.1363071442722; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([101.63.200.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tm1sm23725519pbc.11.2013.03.11.23.57.18 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:57:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Carsten Dominik's message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:05:35 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.54 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157760 Archived-At: Carsten Dominik writes: > On 12.3.2013, at 03:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> >> Jambunathan is claiming that he has not yet designated this work as >> within the scope of Emacs, but he may be ignorant of the legal >> implications of committing code to certain repositories. On the other >> hand, a court might construe his ignorance to mean that no intent to >> contribute was present. > > It is easy to see and prove that the intent from day on was to become > part of Emacs. An intent to act certain way is not the act itself. The intent has to be un-equivocally established and stand third party scrutiny irrespective of what parties to dispute claim. I say that I am changing my intent. It is *my* intent right and I should seek your approval for it? Absurd, I say. I *didn't* move the file from ./contrib/ to lisp/ in Org repo. Contrib files are for all practical purposes non-Emacs files. Bastien didn't consult me while moving those files. Prove me wrong, I will accept defeat and walk away. How can anyone even claim all-your-code-written-or-unwritten-is-mine. I have signed my contract for a nominal $1 exchange. all-your-code-written-or-unwritten-is-mine-as-long-as-you-say-otherwise should be the spirit. People are disregarding my "moral rights" over my work and pushing me in a corner to act a certain way to serve their own interests. This I feel is plain wrong and an act of snatching or appropriation. Jambunathan K. --