add emms to ELPA

add emms to ELPA

[Ivan Kanis]

emms is an emacs music player

https://www.gnu.org/software/emms/

Since it's already a GNU project, I think all the paperwork is taken
care of.

I might have time to include it in ELPA.

Are there any objections?

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Re: add emms to ELPA

[joakim]

Ivan Kanis <ivan@kanis.fr> writes:

> emms is an emacs music player
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emms/
>
> Since it's already a GNU project, I think all the paperwork is taken
> care of.
>
> I might have time to include it in ELPA.

+1

> Are there any objections?

-- 
Joakim Verona

Re: add emms to ELPA

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:57:59 +0200 Ivan Kanis <ivan@kanis.fr> wrote: 

IK> emms is an emacs music player
IK> https://www.gnu.org/software/emms/

IK> Since it's already a GNU project, I think all the paperwork is taken
IK> care of.

IK> I might have time to include it in ELPA.

IK> Are there any objections?

Good idea.

Ted

Re: add emms to ELPA

[Richard Stallman]

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    https://www.gnu.org/software/emms/

    Since it's already a GNU project, I think all the paperwork is taken
    care of.

That does not follow!

Some GNU packages are FSF-copyrighted and some are not.
I don't know about this one.

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Re: add emms to ELPA

[Stefan Monnier]

> emms is an emacs music player
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emms/
> Since it's already a GNU project, I think all the paperwork is taken
> care of.

As Richard explained, there's no such guarantee, but indeed
copyright.list includes a 16 assignments for EMMS, so it seems very
likely to the paperwork has been taken care of.  Please check with
the maintainer.

> I might have time to include it in ELPA.

It would be great.  The only potential problem is how to keep the `elpa'
code up-to-date.  I.e. either move the focus of development directly in
the `elpa' branch, or get someone to take on the responsability to sync
the two (both ways) on a regular basis.


        Stefan

Re: add emms to ELPA

[Yoni Rabkin]

Hello. I've picked up the maintainership of Emms and am slowly going
through the backlog.

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> emms is an emacs music player
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/emms/
>> Since it's already a GNU project, I think all the paperwork is taken
>> care of.
>
> As Richard explained, there's no such guarantee, but indeed
> copyright.list includes a 16 assignments for EMMS, so it seems very
> likely to the paperwork has been taken care of.  Please check with
> the maintainer.

I went through the AUTHORS file included in Emms and compared it to the
entries in copyright.list. Every person except one listed in the AUTHORS
file has either an assignment for Emms or for Emacs on file (and some,
like me, have both).

I tracked down the commit for the one person who didn't have any
assignments with the FSF, and it turns out that commit is a trivial
single line of change:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emms.git/commit/?id=c4a18712be3b036a2336db631a534d0e3ce162b9

I've removed his name from the AUTHORS file and placed it in a THANKGNU
file instead.

Could there have been significant commits in the past from people who
were not included in the AUTHORS file? Perhaps, but I can't think of an
trustworthy way of figure out if this is the case.

>> I might have time to include it in ELPA.
>
> It would be great.  The only potential problem is how to keep the `elpa'
> code up-to-date.  I.e. either move the focus of development directly in
> the `elpa' branch, or get someone to take on the responsability to sync
> the two (both ways) on a regular basis.

I think that syncing makes sense so that other contributors can still
commit to Savannah without needing to learn of a new place to send their
modifications.

-- 
   "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"

Re: add emms to ELPA

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Yoni Rabkin writes:

 > Could there have been significant commits in the past from people who
 > were not included in the AUTHORS file? Perhaps, but I can't think of an
 > trustworthy way of figure out if this is the case.

I think the only way that the FSF's lawyers will trust is to track
down all the committers according to the VCS and read all the commit
messages for "patch by" attributions, as well as all change logs if
you keep a change log separate from the VCS lot.  IANAL and I'm not
RMS, either, but since you have that information available, I would
expect them (and any judge/jury that might get involved) to consider
reading the logs to be due diligence.

It's really not that much work, even if you have to do it for the
whole of Emacs instead of just one package.  The problem of course is
that it's terribly tedious, even for a small project.