From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What's an even easier explanation how to setup gnus ... Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 00:01:48 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <874na2g9wz.fsf@informatimago.com> References: <5i61va9u7p.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqmzjvly.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378159523 28251 80.91.229.3 (2 Sep 2013 22:05:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 22:05:23 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 03 00:05:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGcFT-0001am-T1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 00:05:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42264 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGcFT-000087-2r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 18:05:27 -0400 X-Received: by 10.180.212.76 with SMTP id ni12mr6004259wic.1.1378159368712; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 15:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!g3no16021539wic.0!news-out.google.com!v3ni25244wiv.1!nntp.google.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Trace: individual.net lHFWbwHb4/BlgMK/RQi9/gkq87237BcgY0gjRKksVLnbHnmJ5V Cancel-Lock: sha1:NmMzMmUyYzE1YzgzOTQ2MWM4MDdiZTA3ZjYzYWVkMjYwMTU1Y2M5ZQ== sha1:urGVpAcREMkSgB9dVwSIEgXUpH8= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200940 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93207 Archived-At: wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) writes: > Thorsten Jolitz writes: > >> Please don't feel compelled, I don't think that thread was meant so >> seriously (including my post). But if you want to expose your >> grandparents to the world of computers for the very first time, and you >> love them more than you love RMS, maybe you should consider my anecdotal >> evidence ... > > My grandmother (and presumably many people's grandparents) used > computers for work, and they were command-line based with monochrome > displays. Why assume that touchscreen GUIs are inherently intuitive? > (Hint: the fact that they don't come with manuals is not evidence of this). Well, people the age of my grandmother have been using GUI almost all their live too. I'm afraid, the gran'ma argument can't be used anymore in computing, our pioneer are already dead (RIP John McCarthy, Dijkstra, Backus, etc). -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/