From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Size of Gnus and Emacs Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:59:01 +0700 Message-ID: <874n76wox6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87ob5k1a9q.fsf__48304.1452513591$1384626024$gmane$org@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87bo1jjg1w.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87mwl11hry.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87r4adywhk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87eh6cyqed.fsf_-_@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87wqk381zk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384995473 21164 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2013 00:57:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 00:57:53 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 01:57:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjIaj-0002uo-G8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:57:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57879 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjIaj-0001HF-2N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:57:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjIaT-0001H4-At for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:57:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjIaN-0002fy-VI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:57:41 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:49131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjIaN-0002fu-OT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:57:35 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjIaM-0002jj-Fs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:57:34 +0100 Original-Received: from 223.204.248.28 ([223.204.248.28]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:57:34 +0100 Original-Received: from eric by 223.204.248.28 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:57:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 223.204.248.28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ogMUI/OuBRMFWcj9/B/BXqVtY+U= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94552 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I think in order to qualify as investigators we'll >> have to discover something that isn't directly >> described in the manual :) > > Hey, don't be such a downer! When in doubt, interpret > information to *your* advantage :) > >> As Jambunathan noted, the Gnus manual is less of a >> manual, more of a "Hitchhiker's Guide to Gnus". > > I think the Gnus manual is great! 99% is serious. I > this particular case, it wasn't clear. It would have > been so cool if it had miraculously been true, because > then I would have asked every hacker I ever met what > the biggest program is, and I don't think a single one > would have been, well, "right". > > One of the best things about the Gnus manual is that it > is available in PDF so I can print it on someone else's > printer so I can spare my eyes and (nonexistent) > money. Which brings me to... are there any other Emacs > books available that way? I have the Emacs manual > (published version) but that was version 18 or so. Gnus > is not in that book, and a lot more is not either, I > suspect. I think the texi2pdf script can be used to create a PDF from any texinfo manual -- which pretty much all the manuals are! http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/PDF-Output.html