From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19109: eww-setup-buffer: use set-buffer instead of switch-to-buffer Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:45:57 +0000 Message-ID: <874mtv3u6y.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <83h9xw9zg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83d28k9yb9.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppcj9740.fsf@gnu.org> <871toze1tl.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq6rcidx.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq6r41b2.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <87lhn73ymt.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416422842 20742 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2014 18:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:47:22 +0000 (UTC) To: 19109@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 19 19:47:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAHc-0006u7-DW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:47:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60175 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAHc-00034H-15 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:47:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48464) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAHT-0002wU-4x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:47:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAHO-0004Ax-CI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:47:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAHO-0004At-8M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAHN-00075K-NX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:47:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19109 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 19109-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19109.141642277627169 (code B ref 19109); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:47:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2014 18:46:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38590 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAGa-000746-Fi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:46:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:41456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAGU-00073t-LG for 19109@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:46:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=gb2r/QK+bS4GDkv/CBrSV76AHkxxIcCTw79gthKgEvk=; b=OLwjfUbo5MLVoVMfHOONL7s9Ssl9H/oPRCHdSodtq5+AHPUiwwlojGC9K1Lg/k6ew/iE+uXYAoTrcoS3vZmfMJGDKhM94J0BzMIx6kF2/pnIERKekoBD4CmjvInbVpbOEaGQTOIzsMue56WzFeTq2D9n7Z7urNh1ll96cY6AEQM=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAGS-0006TU-Th for 19109@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:46:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrAGL-0006vE-L3 for 19109@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:45:57 +0700 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:33:27 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:96260 >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov writes: >>> I think this is a case of "don't do that, then". >> Yes. And that means that eww-reload is essentially synchronous, =E2=80= =93 >> you can=E2=80=99t really invoke it and switch to doing some other thing= ; you >> have to wait until it completes. > You have a very singular usage pattern. The normal usage pattern is > to have a single *eww* buffer. This statement is untrue in two respects: =E2=80=A2 the current eww-setup-buffer behavior also affects the =E2=80=9C= single *eww* buffer=E2=80=9D case; =E2=80=A2 I=E2=80=99ve seen questions regarding multi-buffer EWW usage on = IRC as soon as 24.4 got released; presumably, this means that there /are/ EWW users that are interested in this usage pattern. Besides, there=E2=80=99re many more Emacs users which use other browsers in either multi-window or multi-tab configuration. I do not believe they will just happily forget about their long-time preferences when considering switching to EWW. > If you want a different pattern, and then you go around asking Emacs > to reload all the buffers, and you are then not happy about how that > works for you, then -- > Closing. Objection. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A